Pope Francis Says LGBT Blessings are for Individuals

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pope-says-lgbt-blessings-are-individuals-not-approval-unions-2024-01-26/

This is the part of his speech that's problematic

"Francis stressed that such blessings should not be given in a liturgical context. The document says they should be delivered discreetly and never with any of the pomp or ceremonial accoutrements found at weddings."

Translation: We love our gay brothers and sisters but they are still going to hell

More so: We're happy for you, but we'll never officially sanction your relationship because we're afraid of losing the homophobes in our congregation.

I dont ask the Pope to stop being Catholic. Just to be tolerant. Which this particular pope is doing a rather good job at.

We have to wait until...God sends a revelation...for them to change the actual religion...in any substantial way like that!


If the Pope saw a burning bush outside his window...walked up to it...and heard a voice coming out of it saying "same sex marriage is now okay by me." THEN the Catholic Church could modify its actual teachings.

The above is a reference to Moses BTW.

The Pope cant just decide to have his own opinion about it (like a democratically elected POTUS or prime minister can) and then campaign for it in Congress, or in Parliament .

Last edited by naturalplastic on 27 Jan 2024, 6:19 am, edited 1 time in total.

Verbal denials can be ignored as long as the change is ongoing

^Yes. The Pope may well be doing all that he can to effect positive change...but has to do it "under the radar" of Catholic doctrine.

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"Francis stressed that such blessings should not be given in a liturgical context.
The document says they should be delivered discreetly and never with any of

the pomp or ceremonial accoutrements found at weddings."

'Bread Crumbing' As 'They' Say, What Folks Do in the Online
Dating World of 'Stringing' Someone Along in a Relationship

Until they are No Longer Needed as an 'Accessory' In their Life;
In This Case of Course, Dwindling Congregations to Pay for the 'Building Fund'

And Of Course Settling Lawsuits Involving Abusing the Most Vulnerable Among Us

Which of Course Includes
the LGBTQ Community;

Ah, Yet Reality is Changing
As Noted in another Thread 'Here;'
A Recent Survey, Scientifically Done,
Shows a Result of 28 Percent of Generation Z,
Identifying as Part of the LGBTQ Community; Yes,

More than They Identify as Either Republican or White Christian,

Which Means the Target Audience for the Churches is Changing; Yep, Swing
With the New Target Audience Or Lose the Congregation For What is Already

Happening With
Younger Generations
Now as Hey More than
1 Out of Every 4 Means

So Many More Loved Ones
Associated With All these Young
LGBTQ Folks; And Of Course Corporations

Are ALREADY paying attention to the Effect
of Employee and Customer Retention too; Yep,

Hehe Even 'Chick Filet' With Their "Vice President

of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion" Yet It's true; Yes,

They are Still Closed On Sunday, So LGBTQ Employees
Can Go to A Church Where 'Bread Crumbing' Is Enough

Holy Wafer
As Incentive
To Go to Get
An Unofficial Blessing

Yet Not Necessarily

A Ticket Out of Hell;

The Most Hypocritical
Parts of All of This, With the
Catholic Church at Least, is Internal
Surveys Show that Up to 58 Percent
of Priests Are Among a Homosexual
Orientation, Whether Or Not They Act Upon Their Nature;

On the Other Hand, Some of the Best Songs They Offer for
me to Sing When i Dance Slowly Visiting the Church as
An Anthropological Participant Observer as Part of my

EPiC Long Form
Poem Homework;
Usually Arriving
After the Homily;

Yep, Some of the Songs
Written by Out of the
Closet Jesuit Priests;

Chances Are, if It Were Not For the
Influence of the LGBTQ Community

Even Thousands of Years Ago, When the
Extremely Anti-Patriarchal Beatitudes Were
Written By Whatever Ghost Author or Scribe Associated
With the Famous Pen Name Matthew; Yep, Chances are

Whatever Was Written
About Love and
Empathy And

Compassion For

Others Was Written

By An 'Elton John' then
By Whatever Name of
Roman Greek Writing Citizen...

And little Doubt, The One Who Said
Lust Was a Sin, Was An A-Sexual

Member of 'The Community'...

Or Perhaps
A Human

Who Wasn't
Being Honest
And Truthful About

Their Human Nature

As A
'Straight'
Person Either...

Here's What S88ks, No Matter
Time, Space, Distance, Or a Matter of Things

If Whoever You Are, You Aren't Able to Be, And Do, the Authentic You...

Kudos to the Current Pope For Standing Up (a little bit) For A Large
Portion of His Fellow Priests...

The Cognitive Dissonance
Must Be Incredible Indeed...

Perhaps, Like the Old Jesus
Story, One Day 'Bread Crumbs'
May Turn into Full Loaves of Bread to

Feed the Poor of

Spirit and Truth

in Broad

Day LiGHT;

Yep, Gotta
Start Somewhere;
Small Steps, Better
Than Falling Completely Down...

It Doesn't Take Much Common Sense
To See That's Where It's Going as Most
Any Church i Visit in the Locality that Once
Held the Guinness Book World Record for the

Most Churches Per Capita Has Attendees for the
Most Part Who are Even Older than me; It Wasn't

Like that
When i Visited
From the 60's to
The 80's; When i Returned in 2013,

Hehe, Most of the Hairs Were Gray;

Marketing 101; Karma; Swing With

The Target Audience or Vanish...

Not Selling or Buying
Anything; Don't
Need a
Target

Audience Hehe; i'm Free;

Lost All Those Clothes to Fit
Through 'THE EYe of the Needle'..

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Dude...you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Your stats apply to the US which is a majority Protestant Country. American "Christian Nationalism" has nothing to do with the Roman Catholic Church. In fact American Christian Nationalists ...got to be that way...because they fear those brown folks crossing the southern border from Latin America...and those Brown folks are majority Catholic. So if anything American Christian Nationalism is anti Catholic.

Though...the KKK did recently ...decide to start admitting Catholics (for most of its 150 year history the KKK was as anti Catholic as it was anti Black and anti Jewish).

Ahem, my Comment was
About the LGBTQ Issue

In the United States;

And More Specifically my Locality;

NOT Christian Nationalism;

The White part of the Statistic
Is only Incidental in this Context;

Yet if You Don't Think Conservative Catholics, Including Priests,
Aren't Against 'The Brown Folks' Crossing the Southern Border, in General,

You Haven't Been to the
Catholic Church i Visit

Here in This Locality And Heard the Priest

Fear Mongering About Immigrants
Crossing the Southern Border,

Probably to Satisfy His Target

Audience Down Here in 'Trump
Town' USA, Hehe; Or Just Because

He Watches
too Much
Fox News...

On The Other Hand,
We Do have Some Issues With Immigration now;

Yet The Catholic Church Ain't the Place to

Argue Against Feeding and Clothing Immigrants

At the Southern Border, at Least not according to 'The J Story'...

Okay.

So Catholic priests, in the US, have to compete with Evangelical Protestants and Mormons for the same Xenophobic crowd.

Hmmmm

At Least Where i Live

in The Really Deep Trump South;

Yet i Understand That the Overall

Catholic Demographic ACross the

United States is About 50/50, Liberal and Conservative...

Hehe, So It Likely Makes a Difference

If You are a 'Biden Catholic'

Or A Catholic
Who Lives in
The District
Down Here Where
Matt Gaetz is the Representative, hehe;

Indeed, a Fascinating
Place to Study

The Human 'Condition'..

Speaking of ...the intersection of Catholicism and American politics...

what became of old Rick Santorum?

A Catholic who was also a culture warrior.

He is still alive. But you never hear much about him anymore.

That too. The liturgical context the pope is referring to is "eternal damnation". What is taught to catholic children happened to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah can be conveniently applied by the clergy and their flock to the LGBTQI community as "god's decree". So you can bless the person but if they begin relationships with their same sex they are damned.

I imagine American christians back the 1800s would have referred their children to bible quoting the sins of HAM (Noah's condemned son) when explaining why black people do not have a soul so it's ok to enslave them. You can bless them with as christians but don't expect to see them in heaven.

I suspect a lot of American christians still think heaven is only for straight-cis white people. God's chosen ones.

A note to LGBT minors: A trustworthy adult will never ask you to keep a secret or be "discrete." If a priest is telling you to have discretion, run.

His current claim to fame is having a bodily function named after him.

I learn as much vocabulary from the Urban Dictionary as I do from Webster's.

Not really a bodily function, just a frothy byproduct of buttsecks.