Sick and tired of identity politics
03 Apr 2024, 12:07 am
There will be no more "identity politics" BS. I've been pushed too much to the point where I have lost all faith for humanity. Now I want nothing but death and dishonor for nationalism.
No wonder your relationships fail.
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03 Apr 2024, 12:07 am
I am blinded by the outrage of the thousands of civilians who were killed by nationalists. I seethe but one day I will break free and I will become one with the revolution. If I can't find a communist society here, there is always one in the afterlife. However, I must have suffered for very long before I am deemed worthy to become one with the revolution and be granted eternal happiness in the communist paradise that awaits me to complete my trials of life.
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03 Apr 2024, 12:09 am
There will be no more "identity politics" BS. I've been pushed too much to the point where I have lost all faith for humanity. Now I want nothing but death and dishonor for nationalism.
No wonder your relationships fail.
Do I look like I will ever be the same person? I am broken and the only way to come back is to regain myself and patiently wait for my natural death by old age.
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"In a socialist society such phenomena must and will disappear. In the old Yugoslavia national oppression by the great-Serb capitalist clique meant strengthening the economic exploitation of the oppressed peoples. This is the inevitable fate of all who suffer from national oppression."
- Josip Broz Tito (Ljubljana, 1948)
03 Apr 2024, 12:22 am
I do not know what you look like, and I do not care, either.
But you SEEM to be just another broken-hearted young man with anger issues and a limited perspective on both the world and life in general.
Good luck with all that.
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03 Apr 2024, 12:27 am
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03 Apr 2024, 3:57 am
True. That is the paradise that awaits me after and others once we complete the trial of life and struggle to resist the liberals and fascists. Communism is for those who seek it and combat liberalism and fascism on a daily basis.
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- Josip Broz Tito (Ljubljana, 1948)
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03 Apr 2024, 4:01 am
I do not know what you look like, and I do not care, either.
But you SEEM to be just another broken-hearted young man with anger issues and a limited perspective on both the world and life in general.
Good luck with all that.
Even if no one were to love me, given that I already feel like I am in the wrong universe, the only thing that I will not let go off is my resistance to those who try to put obstacles in my path. I shall create a socialist family of my own once I get the right equipment to prepare myself. I hate the greed of humanity placed upon and how it extracts happiness and turns it into sadness.
The time has come. The Great Revolution awaits!
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03 Apr 2024, 4:41 am
I only have a small social circle on the Internet. When there is nothing left to be done, the only thing that remains is to begin the transcendence from reality and find somewhere else. A long journey wuth endless universes to pick on. Only one will remain that is best suitable for me. I just have to find it.
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"In a socialist society such phenomena must and will disappear. In the old Yugoslavia national oppression by the great-Serb capitalist clique meant strengthening the economic exploitation of the oppressed peoples. This is the inevitable fate of all who suffer from national oppression."
- Josip Broz Tito (Ljubljana, 1948)
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03 Apr 2024, 9:19 am
I didn't choose to be a broken and angry man. Life simply owned me and now I have to get up and own life. Even if it means taking radical measures to appease myself and not be miserable if I want to be happy and content.
And so, there will be a pursuit for communism. If not here, it will be done elsewhere.
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"In a socialist society such phenomena must and will disappear. In the old Yugoslavia national oppression by the great-Serb capitalist clique meant strengthening the economic exploitation of the oppressed peoples. This is the inevitable fate of all who suffer from national oppression."
- Josip Broz Tito (Ljubljana, 1948)
03 Apr 2024, 3:25 pm
I never defended the Serbian atrocities. That's a rather weird claim.
My apologies, it was wrong of me to assume that. I had guessed you were lamenting the breakup of Yugoslavia much the same way Russian nationalists lament the breakup of the USSR. It's depressingly rare that I encounter a younger leftist from Eastern Europe, but I still should not have assumed. So many people in that part of the world (and elsewhere) still think communism=Stalinism=evil.
For what it's worth, at least in my country, left of center 'identity politics' as it is called is much more aligned with socialism than nationalism. It's about non-whites and other minorites working together to make a more equal society. It's not really comparable to nationalist militias carrying out war crimes against their perceived historical oppressors and fighting viciously over disputed land. There have always been a tiny number of leftist 'identity politics' types who *do* support more violent, supremacist identity politics (eg: black separatists), but they are very much the exception rather than the rule. Also, unlike in Yugoslavia, there is less clear-cut geographic lines separating different identity groups in America. The countryside is mainly white, but the cities are very diverse. This makes it harder to unite a given group around the idea of establishing their own homeland. Most would rather improve their station in the country they already live.
Of course, the reactionary identity politics of white nationalists who see their superior status threatened by other people uniting to stand up to them--those guys are more in line with how you seem to see identity politics: violent, driven by an unearned victim complex, uncompromising, and anti-egalitarian. Those are the types that are hoarding weapons and forming militias in the countryside and plotting the eventual overthrow of the government so they can restore the white man to his rightful place.
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Δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν.
Those with power do what their power permits, and the weak can only acquiesce.
- Thucydides
03 Apr 2024, 3:44 pm
I never defended the Serbian atrocities. That's a rather weird claim.
My apologies, it was wrong of me to assume that. I had guessed you were lamenting the breakup of Yugoslavia much the same way Russian nationalists lament the breakup of the USSR. It's depressingly rare that I encounter a younger leftist from Eastern Europe, but I still should not have assumed. So many people in that part of the world (and elsewhere) still think communism=Stalinism=evil.
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Yugoslavia was not the same as the rest of the Iron Curtain countries.
Tito was a guerilla leader who lead the country in an uprising to kick the Nazis out. While the rest of the Iron Curtain countries had the Nazis driven out by the Soviet Red Army marching west out of Russia , and then had communism imposed upon them by their Soviet liberators/occupiers after WWII. In Yugoslavia communism was a home grown idea. In the rest of Eastern Europe it was imposed by the foreign occupier.
So Yugoslavia (like Russia and Cuba etc) choose a communist revolution on thier own, had their own brand of communism, and pretty much broke ties with the USSR early on. So its not completely surprising that you might find Yugoslav individuals still clinging to Communism...while in the rest of the former East European Warsaw Pact you hear only bitterness about Soviet domination and even blame on the US for "not saving us at the end of WWII".
03 Apr 2024, 3:59 pm
I love this thread. But one thing I would point out.... your politics are not, by necessity, attached to your morals. I.e., in theory you could live under a benevolent fascist and everyone gets along and lives well (I admit this is not likely, but I think you can imagine it), likewise, you could live in a sh-tty democracy, where you start to notice pretty quick democracy is becomes an obvious aristocracy (meet the new boss, same as the old boss) or maybe even a cleptocracy (eh...this one hits close to home for me. Ohio Republicans suck).... we don't need politics as a tool to be sh-tty toward one another, and if it weren't "identiy politics" it would be something else.
My point is, as my friends who are not interested in politics tell me, the real issue is how we treat one another. Do you have respect for the family next door, and how they will support themselves? I have to reconcile that where I live, I am neighbors with people that might view eachother, respectively, as "the problem". But by my observation, neither are the problem. They do the best they can every day. And maybe that's were I really get you Yugoslav. And I am sorry your feeling the way you do. But I don't think there's necessarily a political answer here. Check my signature. That's all I think it comes down to.
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03 Apr 2024, 9:23 pm
This is quite a long thread and I don't have the time or energy to go through every single post to get all of what's been said but.
I very much feel for you OP. It's hard to find like minded people when you're both a political radical and autistic, but there are millions of people who share many of your beliefs and experiences. I don't know if there is a website similar to WP for South Slavs (I don't know which specific group you belong to, and given your insistence on considering yourself primarily a Yugoslav, I am hesitant to ask). That could be a good place to find friends who share more in common with you than us Anglophones. The foreign language forum on this site might also be worth a shot, though I don't know if I've seen anyone on here who can speak any of the languages of the former Yugoslavia.
I see you also expressing a lot of political frustration on top of personal difficulties, and you've talked about the need for violence to attain your goals. I don't want to assume you're going to do anything rash, please but don't do anything to throw your life or freedom away in the name of some far off ideal. To be clear: I am also a revolutionary. I am not at all advocating for respectability politics or incrementalism or compromise with the nationalist-capitalists. I just confess that I get concerned when I see a passionate, frustrated person such as yourself talk about how hopeless everything seems and like violence is the only way. I admit: when my life has felt hopeless, I've also considered sacrificing myself for some cause. But believe me: you can do more good for longer if you stick around. Things will get better. The revolution is coming. Spread the word. Speak your mind. Speak out against nationalists when they try to spread their poisonous thoughts. Defend your ideals. Educate your peers and the younger generation.
You do seem pretty calm and you've mentioned caring about your family, so I'm guessing you're not contemplating anything rash right now. I just didn't want to keep quiet when concerned. You've always got friends on here. We bicker over everything, but we support each other.
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Δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν.
Those with power do what their power permits, and the weak can only acquiesce.
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03 Apr 2024, 11:09 pm
I very much feel for you OP. It's hard to find like minded people when you're both a political radical and autistic, but there are millions of people who share many of your beliefs and experiences. I don't know if there is a website similar to WP for South Slavs (I don't know which specific group you belong to, and given your insistence on considering yourself primarily a Yugoslav, I am hesitant to ask). That could be a good place to find friends who share more in common with you than us Anglophones. The foreign language forum on this site might also be worth a shot, though I don't know if I've seen anyone on here who can speak any of the languages of the former Yugoslavia.
I see you also expressing a lot of political frustration on top of personal difficulties, and you've talked about the need for violence to attain your goals. I don't want to assume you're going to do anything rash, please but don't do anything to throw your life or freedom away in the name of some far off ideal. To be clear: I am also a revolutionary. I am not at all advocating for respectability politics or incrementalism or compromise with the nationalist-capitalists. I just confess that I get concerned when I see a passionate, frustrated person such as yourself talk about how hopeless everything seems and like violence is the only way. I admit: when my life has felt hopeless, I've also considered sacrificing myself for some cause. But believe me: you can do more good for longer if you stick around. Things will get better. The revolution is coming. Spread the word. Speak your mind. Speak out against nationalists when they try to spread their poisonous thoughts. Defend your ideals. Educate your peers and the younger generation.
You do seem pretty calm and you've mentioned caring about your family, so I'm guessing you're not contemplating anything rash right now. I just didn't want to keep quiet when concerned. You've always got friends on here. We bicker over everything, but we support each other.
Comrade, I'm glad that you've expressed your concern for my struggle. It is indeed that I am very angry at how I am being treated. I have been defending my own ideals since quite some time. For when I started communism in 2022, I was first unknown of where I was on the compass as my communism clearly was undergoing development. Then in 2023, I realized that not supporting USA, Russia, China, NATO, and other major imperialist forces was the true anti-imperialism and that those self-proclaimed "anti-imperialists" are either bootlickers of liberalism, or the NATO empire, or Russian and Chinese imperial governments. Yugoslavia was simply not willing to take sides and was determined to rely on itself.
I do care for my family. They raised me. They struggle too in raising my sisters and me but they ensure that I get good schooling and that I am content for I am their first-born child. I struggle to find a friend and often when I feel under the weather, I end up saying crazy things because I simply seek attention. But I realize that what they said is not the right move, the right move is to be well-groomed and have self-care and then I remember Tito and his self-management policy implemented in 1950. If it weren't for the courage of the Partisans and Tito to resist imperialism and fascism from both sides, Yugoslavia would never have been given such gratitude for not being pro-Soviet or pro-American. Yugoslavia was Yugoslavia, it was not a puppet of the Americans nor it was a Soviet puppet ever since 1948.
I have realized that the only people who would understand me are indeed my family and my small circle of like-minded individuals. And so, if I ever want to spread my own legacy of my own third-way communism which opposes America, Russia, and China, as well as opposing nationalism and liberalism, then I must fight for it to last. I shall fight for an idea of my own so that it can never die when I die. The Great Revolution will come and people will be thankful of the wisdom of a Yugoslav man who resisted imperialism from the West and the East because that is truly the antidote to imperialism.
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"In a socialist society such phenomena must and will disappear. In the old Yugoslavia national oppression by the great-Serb capitalist clique meant strengthening the economic exploitation of the oppressed peoples. This is the inevitable fate of all who suffer from national oppression."
- Josip Broz Tito (Ljubljana, 1948)
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