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I'm not sure how long the story will be available, but it's pretty cool.

Car Powered By Water A Reality

if this really works it could change the world, no more oil wars either

The article states that he found a way to generate HHO gas, naturally the energy required in the conversion process must be at least equal to the potential energy in the gas. Conservation of energy would not be violated. This would just be an energy storage medium the way extracting H2 is. But as a larger molecule HHO may be easier to process and store then hydrogen. This is not some magic replacement for fossil fuel, at least not without massive investment in solar power harvesting to power the conversion process.

So how did he get the middle hydrogen atom to make two bonds?

If he actually was able to get Hydrogen to make two bonds, then he should submit himself for a Nobel Prize for Chemistry.

According to wikipedia, HHO is really just a 2:1 mixture of gaseous hydrogen and oxygen, so I'm personally skeptical that this is anything more than just an Otto cycle that burns hydrogen rather than gasoline.

Happy for the last three posts. Someone(s) knows a bit of chemistry and thermodynamics. Yip! And my post can be mercifully short!

Also he still runs it on half gas, so it's not more fuel-efficient than ordinary hybrids that have been out for years.

That's cool. My friend would probably want one of those.

Hmmm..... The potential is definitely there if he could build a pure Aquygen car. I am interested to know how he keeps the gaseous hydrogen and oxygen from spontaneously recombining to form water before it's burned in the engine.

I'm going to e-mail this article to my AP chemistry teacher, i'm interested to hear his opinion on this... if it's for real, it would be totally wicked cool.

so this would be more of a help with the chemical diagram. I'm no chemist, but H20 and HH0 are different exactly how?...

I've been told it does take more energy to break apart water than it gives off by burning (recombining) into water. So supplying this 'new' compound wouldn't be cost-efficient.

I'm sure you could make a car that burns hydrogen, but the amount of energy given off would differ from gasoline, so the timing, carburation (is that a word?.., and fuel mix would have to be different. Another thought; hot water, running down the tailpipe and onto the street, could potentially dissolve the partially-burned hydrocarbons down said pipeways, which wouldn't be that 'green'...

And storage....3 words...remember the Hindenburg?...


I'm not against a hydrogen car. Someday they'll make one, and if it's cheaper to buy and run, I'll get one. But until that day, this has my BS meter pegging in the red...

Hydrogen in the combustion chamber supposedly allows for leaner mixtures to be run, which can reduce pumping losses and increase part-load engine efficiency. The device also likely increases load (better efficiency) on the engine when creating Hydrogen, and is usually hooked up to the electrical system, so I imagine altering it's operating routine such that it would always run during DFCO so not all of the energy when decelerating and/or coming to a stop was lost could be done, allowing for energy storage, maybe ~.5-1kW depending on conversion efficiency and maximum alternator current. Compared to other lean burn engines, such as CI, there is relatively little NOx production, and supposedly the rate of EGR compared to load can be altered. Here's more if anyone is interested.

That being said, the ~48mpg could be achieved just as easily by a change in gearing and driving habits depending on the route driven, so as usual these things should be taken with a grain of salt. I personally average ~32mpg in a car that's rated for ~19mpg according to fueleconomy.gov with only changes in driving habits, so I imagine I could see a similar increase from the pictured Escort Wagon's ~29mpg average by simply driving efficiently, so to speak. No need for additional equipment.

heavy water?
H+O+H

Heavy water actually is still chemically water. It just has higher than normal amounts of deuterium and tritium in it.

Inside I knew that this could be done, I am betting that the oil companies are trying to keep them quite because they still want money. Really! how much money do you need before you can say that you have enough? I only want $500,000 just to pay off my house, car, fiancee's student loans, and buy a smart car. I would still work, but the money I make would be pure profit used to buy food and go on a trip or two.