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 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: What is scientific about ID?

Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 6:08 am 

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They sat in my "Out Unread" box until I deleted them in March. The second message had the offer in the title, so if at any time during those six weeks you looked in your Inbox, you must have seen the offer. I indeed have PM from January,but not from you. That means most of us have some communicatio...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: What is scientific about ID?

Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 6:40 pm 

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galileo proving the earth is not the center of the universe: again going against the creation story and so religion attacks. http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/3002 " Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe ." -- Galileo Galilei :wink: Besides that claim that Earth is the cen...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: What is scientific about ID?

Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 6:26 pm 

Replies: 182
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it's not a consequence (which i'm taking to mean a negative effect). it's what science is... a skeptical view of the world that is defined by reproducable results and a constant back-checking (meaning updating theories and facts as more information becomes present). If skeptical view is defined by ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: What is scientific about ID?

Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 5:56 pm 

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faith and science cannot co-exist because they're essentially polar opposites. the best science is when the least faith is involved and the most skepticism is involved. Logical consequence of this skepticism is skepticism in science itself. Prove to me that there are not invisible pink unicorns on ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: What is scientific about ID?

Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 5:30 pm 

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You are welcome to check and come to the rescue of anyone I misjudge. I have no intent to 'rescue' anyone..after all I'm not proponent of ID. And even if someone claims that you have 'misjudged' somebody,it only depends of your good will if you would accept this critic or not. You yourself have dem...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: What is scientific about ID?

Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 4:09 pm 

Replies: 182
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skafather84 wrote:
that's why they're religious. because they take stuff they don't know and attribute it to god. god of the gaps is everyone's god.


But slowmutant said:

slowmutant wrote:
My God is not a God-of-the-gaps.


:?

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: What is scientific about ID?

Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 3:21 pm 

Replies: 182
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If we get something, I am sure you can make up your own mind whether it's an argument or not, and so will everyone else. I personally believe that you have already make up your mind,but thats only my opinion... If you really want arguments for ID,you should ask proponents of ID who are qualified fo...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: AS people who are religious....

Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 2:14 pm 

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I constantly ask my religious friends to give me an honest and intelligent reason why you should pick a religion, or why theirs is true. Compare above statement with this one: Religion causes wars. Religion says war is ok. Religion used to condemn people of different skin tone and cause racial bash...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: What is scientific about ID?

Posted: 27 Apr 2008, 10:08 am 

Replies: 182
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Wait with counterarguments until there is an argument . And who is to judge what 'argument' is? You perhaps? :wink: If they have nothing to say, I'll revive the thread every two or three days with a count of how long there's been silence. If there's still nothing after three weeks, I think it will ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Just How atheist are you?

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 2:39 pm 

Replies: 76
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The point remains, Witt, that claims without evidence in nature are quite alike each other and there is little (no discernable) difference between them. Since I never said that God is natural,I don't see why do you insist on evidence in nature? First off, dragons don't exist... never have. How do y...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Just How atheist are you?

Posted: 02 Feb 2008, 8:58 am 

Replies: 76
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Questions about the nature of reality, the existance of anything "supernatural" included, cannot be answered by pure a priori deduction (or "pure reason" as Kant called it). Concept of nature is itself a priori,and can never be tested by experience,since nature is a priori concept that makes natura...

 Forum: Art, Writing, and Music   Topic: Any Zeppelin fans

Posted: 01 Feb 2008, 3:37 pm 

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Led Zeppelin is great... :wink:

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Just How atheist are you?

Posted: 01 Feb 2008, 3:01 pm 

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How do you know there aren't other species of Octopus that have adapted and fly around on nothing and create universes? Then by your definition this is not an Octopus (a sea animal) but something else. Particular existence like Octopus is limited by the fact that he is octopus,and therefore cannot ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Just How atheist are you?

Posted: 01 Feb 2008, 2:38 pm 

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Witt, you are incorrect. The teapot analogy has nothing to do with its physicality. It just means that any absurd claim can be considered equivalent to the notion of God, since they all lack evidence. Non-material things can also leave evidence. If you say that something is a teapot,unicorn or mons...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Just How atheist are you?

Posted: 01 Feb 2008, 1:43 pm 

Replies: 76
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IMO one cannot disprove the existance of God for the same reason we cannot disprove the possibility of Bertrand Russell's teapot floating around in space, but there is no evidence for the existance of either so we have no reason to believe in thier existance. Analogy with Russel's teapot would be r...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Why does God allow bad things to happen?

Posted: 01 Feb 2008, 11:38 am 

Replies: 145
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Involving any ethics in ontological discussions is very problematic,since ethical or moral subjects like 'good','bad','evil','just' are prone to purely relative subjective interpretations.This is my personal opinion. Nevertheless,a theist could turn an ethical argument against existence of God as an...
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