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 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 12 Jul 2021, 4:23 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Clear? That you're in a non-monogamous relationship with the truth, yes. We were discussing bodily autonomy. When the OP raised the question of whether governments curtail it to support safety nets. You came in blathering... My response was three sentences long and focused exclusively on what he sa...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 10 Jul 2021, 7:15 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


XFilesGeek wrote:
Just like your insistence on comparing money to flesh.

That doesn't appear in any of my posts. Go read them. If you can't be bothered to do that before shooting your mouth off, you should be more careful with your use of pejoratives like "moronic." Glass houses and all...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 10 Jul 2021, 1:15 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Here's a fun idea: I'll take your wallet and then kick it... If that was directed at me, you'll need to re-phrase it so that it's not a straw man. I've only made a few positive claims on this thread: 1: Nearly every person who works is required to pay into the safety net. 2: Your tax contributions ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 06 Jul 2021, 12:10 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


tl;dr ^You're grousing about cans of worms that you chose to open . That says a lot more about you than me, in particular that you were punting rather than making a sincere argument. I could just as easily have responded in kind: If you don't want to pay taxes you can remove yourself from the socie...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 5:04 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Paying taxes isn't forced labour unless you pay your taxes in labour; but since your money isn't your flesh it's nonsensical to compare paying taxes to forced pregnancy. In other words you're taking position #3 - that the bureaucratic process is separate from its unavoidable consequence. Aside from...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 1:13 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Because the point isn't to "protect babies," it's to control and punish women. FWIW I don't have any particular need to control American women, as I haven't dated in the US in several years and don't intend to. My girlfriend is a wonderful lady from a much more pleasant country, not only ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 12:01 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Hopefully this argument will be moot once artificial wombs are perfected and you can stop accusing me of wanting to punish women. I didn't know until recently how far along they were: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Nature_Communications_Biobag_system_design.jpg I've been intere...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 29 Jun 2021, 2:49 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Even if one has a right to be provided with a bare minimum of food, no one is going to be forced to put their needs and interests on hold while providing forced labour to contribute towards that goal. You can't pay for groceries or housing without bearing the cost of government aid programs (and ot...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 26 Jun 2021, 6:18 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Even if one has a right to be provided with a bare minimum of food, no one is going to be forced to put their needs and interests on hold while providing forced labour to contribute towards that goal. You can't pay for groceries or housing without bearing the cost of government aid programs (and ot...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 21 Jun 2021, 6:10 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Seems to me that having men making rules about abortion is a bit like... Men don't make those decisions for you. In Australia, where MrsPeel lives, women make up half of the electorate, hold a third of the seats in Parliament, 3 of 7 seats on the High Court (including that of Chief Justice), and ha...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 11 Jun 2021, 9:06 am 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Dvdz wrote:
Why would you be sceptical of WHO's figures but not your own[?]

I believe that he already answered that:

Mikah wrote:
without dissecting the WHO report right now, I'd remain very sceptical of their claims.

i.e. he wants to read it first. That seems fair.

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists' analysis: SARS2 origin

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 2:44 pm 

Replies: 15
Views: 738


Bret Stephens of the NYT: If it turns out that the Covid pandemic was caused by a leak from a lab in Wuhan, China, it will rank among the greatest scientific scandals in history: dangerous research, possibly involving ethically dubious techniques that make viruses more dangerous, carried out in a po...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 04 Jun 2021, 4:34 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Assuming both stories are true, those girls still had much more bodily autonomy than a man whose girlfriend sabotages birth control to get pregnant. He gets to be a slave for the next 18 years without exception. State Sen. Bryan Hughes, a sponsor of the bill, told CNN that law enforcement should ho...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: New Restrictions on Abortion Have Real World Consequences

Posted: 02 Jun 2021, 6:54 pm 

Replies: 326
Views: 6,856


Assuming both stories are true, those girls still had much more bodily autonomy than a man whose girlfriend sabotages birth control to get pregnant. He gets to be a slave for the next 18 years without exception. State Sen. Bryan Hughes, a sponsor of the bill, told CNN that law enforcement should hol...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists' analysis: SARS2 origin

Posted: 26 May 2021, 6:08 pm 

Replies: 15
Views: 738


Douglas G. McNeil, Jr., veteran of The Times mulls over Wade's article. The deeper I read into the papers and articles Nick cited, the clearer it became how much new information had trickled out in the last year ... I now agree with Nick’s central conclusion ... the argument that [COVID-19] could h...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: I'm going to say it like it is: the Allies in WW2 were EVIL

Posted: 15 May 2021, 1:32 pm 

Replies: 31
Views: 1,000


Poles fought for the allies and then - we interpret it that we were sold to Stalin at the Yalta conference. I can get that almost everyone was tired of this war and wanted peace even at a cost of sending millions of people to another evil - but the feeling of being betrayed is here, too. WWII had v...
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