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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Ethics of religious discussions? |
| Cleekster |
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Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 5:17 pm
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| what i mean't by theory is that it's the best explanation we can come up with that works with what we consider evidence......but subject to change in the future. based on additional evidence that may present itself.. I find however that many Atheists consider these theories as if they were absolute... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: "We're all searching for answers" |
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Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 5:07 pm
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Replies: 158
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| ...That the belief in God is just another way of finding truth about the universe, or whatever. But... if you have "found" God... then... what answers are left for you to search for, now? A God is literally the be-all and end-all of it, there is nothing else to know; The truth is: if you have decid... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: "We're all searching for answers" |
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Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 4:58 pm
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| Well said. To be fair, some people do go on a spiritual search for the "right" religion, but it is a search for something that "feels right", not a search for the truth. A search for the truth involves science books, a university degree, and eventually a job in scientific research. As Bill Maher pu... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Ethics of religious discussions? |
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Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 4:52 pm
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| Here you go Cleekster - this might help a little: The Scientific Method 1) Develop a new hypothesis. A hypothesis is merely an idea that is usually based on passive observations of natural events. An idea does not have to be supported, but if it does not, then it remains only an idea. 2) Search for... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Ethics of religious discussions? |
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Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 4:48 pm
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| Here is how I see the issue; If a theist were to create a thread in PPR that did not make illogical, false claims...then they would not be attacked by nearly as many atheists. The problem is the approach. An open discussion about "what is, or is not" is fair game, and deservers to be critiqued by a... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Ethics of religious discussions? |
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Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 4:14 pm
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Replies: 162
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| Here is how I see the issue; If a theist were to create a thread in PPR that did not make illogical, false claims...then they would not be attacked by nearly as many atheists. The problem is the approach. An open discussion about "what is, or is not" is fair game, and deservers to be critiqued by a... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 8:10 pm
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Replies: 114
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| guess i hit a nerve,huh? No, not really. It just makes you seem a bit stunned, because without that interest you don't seem to understand it well enough formulate an informed opinion. hmm....perhaps you're right....it could also stem from my interest in Theology and the obvious conflict of interest... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm
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| well hopefully as i post more you'll come to see that i am open minded....i just call it as i see it......unfortunately Science isn't one of my areas of interest and although i'm not stupid by any stretch reading scientific papers alot of times is just beyond my ability to comprehend whats being sa... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 4:48 pm
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Replies: 114
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| Science should have NO bias at all....it should look at both the supernatural and the natural and accept whatever findings come from that.....most scientist are fundie Athiests who would NEVER admit to any supernatural truth if it was found....that having been said i fully admit that i am biased ag... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 9:25 pm
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Replies: 114
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| Science should have NO bias at all....it should look at both the supernatural and the natural and accept whatever findings come from that.....most scientist are fundie Athiests who would NEVER admit to any supernatural truth if it was found....that having been said i fully admit that i am biased ag... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: American Constitution Losing Appeal |
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Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 9:11 pm
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Replies: 95
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| I'll take personal liberty over Big Gov't EVERYTIME......or put another way any constitution that doesn't allow for me to have economic and social freedom i'm against. |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 8:43 pm
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Replies: 114
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| Before the existence of atoms and molecules was confirmed, it was a hypothesis that best explained the different density and weight of different elements, as well as the chemical reactions between elements. It was simply the best explanation for an observable phenomenon. the Atom never was in a sta... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 8:26 pm
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| Before the existence of atoms and molecules was confirmed, it was a hypothesis that best explained the different density and weight of different elements, as well as the chemical reactions between elements. It was simply the best explanation for an observable phenomenon. the Atom never was in a sta... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 7:47 pm
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Replies: 114
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| The non-existence of a deity or deities is rational and logical I find the possibility of a Deity to be just as rational and logical.....and your position is unprovable being a negative. The assumption of nonexistence until proven otherwise is rational and logical. Very few atheists think that a (g... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 7:38 pm
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Replies: 114
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| The non-existence of a deity or deities is rational and logical I find the possibility of a Deity to be just as rational and logical.....and your position is unprovable being a negative. The assumption of nonexistence until proven otherwise is rational and logical. Very few atheists think that a (g... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: What turned you? |
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Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 7:30 pm
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| When it comes to anti-intellectual, gay-bashing theism, then yes, I'm an anti-theist. Deism is fine in my book. Deists don't go around telling people that they are sinful and immoral and will burn in hell. so what you're saying is that since Adam and Eve sinned then everybody else should be punishe... |
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