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13 May 2016, 10:58 pm

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who else here that uses W10 runs out of memory after about a day of computing?


Most likely culprits:

malware <-- cleanse them.

drivers <-- update them.

Runtime Broker <-- disable it. It manages permissions for apps from the Windows store and I fear was either coded or QA'd by guinea pigs distracted by the sound of crunching lettuce.


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13 May 2016, 11:53 pm

disabled runtime broker. so far something is still using every one of my 2.3GHz. it is usually Edge that hogs the resources. the thingie in Edge that wards off the malware is busy.



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14 May 2016, 1:06 am

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disabled runtime broker. so far something is still using every one of my 2.3GHz. it is usually Edge that hogs the resources. the thingie in Edge that wards off the malware is busy.

Ugh. Edge in my opinion is a resource hog. We ended up turning off cortana, location services & everything else that wasn't actually needed by our employees and finally the CPU & memory went back to near normal at idle. In the end, we just had them use IE instead of Edge. There's just too much dark channel communication going on with Edge phoning home constantly, even with all such options turned off.


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14 May 2016, 1:11 am

Install Linux. There's no reason to be running Windoze nowadays unless there are specific programs for it that you rely on.


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14 May 2016, 1:36 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Install Linux. There's no reason to be running Windoze nowadays unless there are specific programs for it that you rely on.

pristine sounds 2005
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iZotopeRx5
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various plug-ins that run within soundforge

no Linux versions of those. no expertise to run windows within Linux if such is possible.



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14 May 2016, 10:26 am

There's always the dual boot option.



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14 May 2016, 2:05 pm

If you are comfortable with such things, or if you know someone who is, it is possible to find the exact process that is causing trouble and dealing with it. Typically you'll need to download mark russinovich's systernals/winternals tools, now owned by Microsoft. It can take a day of slogging through traces, much research and a fair amount of OS knowledge, but it *is* possible.

Easier first step:

run MSCONFIG.exe (part of windows) & use it to stop unwanted processes and services from starting.

Do the same with Process Manager (via ctl-alt-del), start up tab.

Reboot.

Since this is win 10, though do *not* under any circumstances prevent windows firewall from running. Even if you turn it 'off' via the control panel interface, keep the service running. It's now required by every app that sends your personal & usage info back to microsoft; therefore they made it so if you block it from running, chunks of the OS simply don't work.


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14 May 2016, 2:35 pm

auntblabby wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Install Linux. There's no reason to be running Windoze nowadays unless there are specific programs for it that you rely on.

pristine sounds 2005
sound forge 10
iZotopeRx5
Dcart6
RolandRmix
various plug-ins that run within soundforge

no Linux versions of those. no expertise to run windows within Linux if such is possible.

Blabby, you never mentioned you were into audio restoration, we could have been best buddies for like, ever lol. You wouldn't want any of those programs to run through a virtual machine (windows inside linux or vice versa) anyhow, and dual boot is a pain in the ass. And listen to Edenthiel, I pretty much typed out the same thing she said before I saw her reply. Also, never trust an OS's native browser, that's where they send the interns to work (or so it seems).

I'm on 10 and I've noticed my anti-malware just obliterating my CPU at times...until I realized: I'm compiling code (coding the same VST plugins you mentioned in Soundforge), so that's a lot of overhead that's it's sucking up. Make sure some side process that interfaces with your application isn't doing the same to you.

also, to get into msconfig if you don't know how: right click the start icon, select run, type: msconfig, press enter and it pops up. Go to the services tab, sort by manufacturer and make sure there's nothing checked that you've uninstalled or don't need. If you disable a service that windows needs, it will tell you that the service is not running if the program you want to run needs it-- that's your clue to go back into msconfig and enable it. I'd recommend not touching those by Microsoft unless you're absolutely sure you don't them or you'll just be asking for headaches.



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14 May 2016, 7:04 pm

auntblabby wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Install Linux. There's no reason to be running Windoze nowadays unless there are specific programs for it that you rely on.

pristine sounds 2005
sound forge 10
iZotopeRx5
Dcart6
RolandRmix
various plug-ins that run within soundforge

no Linux versions of those. no expertise to run windows within Linux if such is possible.

Actually, that's a good point, audio on Linux is... complicated.


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14 May 2016, 7:13 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Install Linux. There's no reason to be running Windoze nowadays unless there are specific programs for it that you rely on.

pristine sounds 2005
sound forge 10
iZotopeRx5
Dcart6
RolandRmix
various plug-ins that run within soundforge

no Linux versions of those. no expertise to run windows within Linux if such is possible.

Actually, that's a good point, audio on Linux is... complicated.


I think you mean to say: a complete and utter joke. It's great for most tasks, but for audio production the best it has is Tracktion, which I wouldn't even rate in the top 10 of DAWs.



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14 May 2016, 8:13 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Install Linux. There's no reason to be running Windoze nowadays unless there are specific programs for it that you rely on.

pristine sounds 2005
sound forge 10
iZotopeRx5
Dcart6
RolandRmix
various plug-ins that run within soundforge

no Linux versions of those. no expertise to run windows within Linux if such is possible.

Actually, that's a good point, audio on Linux is... complicated.


I think you mean to say: a complete and utter joke. It's great for most tasks, but for audio production the best it has is Tracktion, which I wouldn't even rate in the top 10 of DAWs.

Actually it completely stinks. Juggling ALSA, JACK, PulseAudio... it's a nightmare.


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15 May 2016, 12:40 am

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Blabby, you never mentioned you were into audio restoration, we could have been best buddies for like, ever lol.

I will PM you with some queries :flower: :dj:



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15 May 2016, 2:40 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Install Linux. There's no reason to be running Windoze nowadays unless there are specific programs for it that you rely on.

OK, I'll admit, I was in kind of a ranting mood when I wrote this. To be honest, I kind of hate every major current operating system in some way.


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15 May 2016, 4:31 pm

As of lately, I've been working a lot on a Mac ( developing iOS apps, so I really don't have a choice. ) I hate it. They keyboard is bad, the shortcuts are Apple specific, they touchpad is bad, Finder is horrible for finding files, and just about everything about the UI/UX is bad for a person who wants to use the keyboard 99% of the time ( moving the hand over to use the mouse / touchpad is a waste of time. )

Though I will admit the machine does feel solid even though cooling and upgradeability and repairability is bad. And I like the dash thingy. But that's just a piece of software and similar things exists for other platforms.

So yeah... I don't like it, and would never spend money on it for anything else than developing iOS apps.


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15 May 2016, 6:38 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
To be honest, I kind of hate every major current operating system in some way.


This. Some versions of Windows were pretty good, but unreliable. They mostly fixed that, but created other issues under the hood. And then along came Windows 10, which I am convinced was conceived more to take advantage of data mining than actually allow people to do things on non-tablet platforms. So many options and functions were simply removed, as is they thought no one would notice. So much is forced upon the user. For example: If I'm behind a 'hardware' firewall, I don't want to run a software one and slow down my packets and CPU (& take up memory, and task switch, and...). If you turn off the Windows Firewall service however (not just click 'disable firewall' in the applet)...a whole swath of OS functionality stops working because MS wants those functions to phone home.

Linux, on the other hand, is wonderful...for single purpose machines. As a general user desktop replacement it isn't ready and hasn't been since 1994.

Apple has it's own oddities and that strict platform/environment lock-in.

Android is okay...if all you want to do is make calls, play simple tablet games or anything else that requires nothing more than a touchscreen, connectivity and perhaps a tilt sensor.

The way I see it, computers are still in their infancy. We are living through the tough teething years...


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15 May 2016, 7:07 pm

I currently have a tablet that uses the Android OS. I didn't find out until recently how limiting it was. This one place I was recently hired at only uses virtual interviews. It wouldn't work on a tablet. Also when a company would send forms to fill out, a lot of times I would be unable to type in their blanks. Also if they sent links, I would only be able click on them once in a while. I remedied this by going to a local library or to a Staples and use their computers. The first opportunity I get I am definitely getting a laptop.



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