How we experience time as a 2D lifeform would a 3D object

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20 Nov 2020, 4:37 pm



Basically, we would view it a slice at a time. It keeps going up to the 10th dimension after that.



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20 Nov 2020, 4:44 pm

Author, please?



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20 Nov 2020, 4:45 pm

Fnord wrote:
Author, please?


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22 Nov 2020, 5:06 pm

An analogy I like, is the one with a sheet of paper. A sheet of paper will appear 3 dimensional only if you look closely. It will have a little thickness and be bumpy and have a rough texture up close. Your brain will approximate it as 2 dimensional and only care about the length and width, though.


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22 Nov 2020, 11:46 pm

If thats the way you see the world...
Are you a 2D lifeform? Or is the image in your mind of reality in 2D?


Ive been trying to use 4 points at all times tho....
It comes in handy on the highway.

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25 Nov 2020, 4:02 pm

Insertcoolname wrote:
If thats the way you see the world...
Are you a 2D lifeform? Or is the image in your mind of reality in 2D?


Ive been trying to use 4 points at all times tho....
It comes in handy on the highway.

Lol thanks


No, I think you misunderstood :) . I'm not saying I am a 2d lifeform. But me as a 3d lifeform experiences time a slice at a time, just as a 2d lifeform would view 3d lifeform a slice at a time by seeing a 2d image.



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28 Nov 2020, 12:02 pm

It has some pieces missing for their video explanation: symmetry operators/elements in higher dimensions. Most people do not think in those terms, but certain chemists/physicists do. It is useful for understanding crystal lattice symmetry and Bravias lattices of materials.

Their depictions of some of the higher dimensions is not quite right per my own research on the subject. I cannot easily explain why. That is something I have been trying to do, yet have not found how to describe it. Maybe someday I can figure that out before I expire.

One thing I will mention is that they are wrong on “waves of energy”. The packets of energy are more accurately depicted as spiraling coils, not flat waves. We “see” them as waves because we are observing them in a 3-D system, not the 4-D system that they actually exist in.



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06 Dec 2020, 12:02 am

Ah ok. Sorry. i dont think with words so i get confused sometimes.

It sounds interesting, considering the way our brains and nervous system functions...


My bodys in 3D , my mind is in 2D hallucinating the dimensions above it...

Is there better reasoning tho?


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06 Dec 2020, 7:56 pm

A 2d lifeform is a nonsense concept, but even as a matter of fiction, there's no reason to believe that the lifeform's sight would be restricted to two dimensions.

Furthermore, time is nothing like physical dimensions. This idea of time as a dimension has gotten out of hand, honestly. "Dimension" is not the same as "physical dimension." In math and physics we worked with time, temperature, pressure, and other variables as dimensions. "Dimension" in this sense is a purely mathematical concept, basically just another word for "variable". Any quantity (physical or not) can be represented as a dimension.



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09 Dec 2020, 10:47 am

starkid wrote:
A 2d lifeform is a nonsense concept, but even as a matter of fiction, there's no reason to believe that the lifeform's sight would be restricted to two dimensions.

Furthermore, time is nothing like physical dimensions. This idea of time as a dimension has gotten out of hand, honestly. "Dimension" is not the same as "physical dimension." In math and physics we worked with time, temperature, pressure, and other variables as dimensions. "Dimension" in this sense is a purely mathematical concept, basically just another word for "variable". Any quantity (physical or not) can be represented as a dimension.


Time can be expressed as a dimension. The passage of time is the gradual pathway to increasing entropy within the universe. In that concept, it can only go forward overall. I see it as an effect of a symmetry operation upon our environment, whereby one could plot disorder in a 3-D lattice as a function of time. That is the same effect if you overlap 3-D slices of our universe on top of each other and look at the intersection points. You may not agree with what I have just typed, but that is my perspective on the subject.

Albert Einstein was not wrong in using space-time to describe effects in many of his explanations. Lately some physicists seem to be trying to discredit his research, yet he has a long track record of being right on the money on so many things. That particularly bothers me that some cannot accept him for knowing things that they struggle with, because it does not fit their models of how the universe works.