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12 Dec 2012, 4:45 pm

new photo

i should get it working soon within a few day
i have to buy a secound cpu to upgrade the bios to take my ivy bridge i7
as its just to be used for like 5 minutets before it goes into stoge the 2nd cpu is a:
Intel Celeron G460 1.8 GHz sandy bridge

specs of computer:
32GB ram (4x 8GB komputerbay ddr3 1333mhz)
intel i7 3770k @ 3.5ghz(will be overclocking it)
1x ocz ssd 128GB for windows
1x 80gb maxtor (for swap file)
1x 2tb Weston digital for files and games
3GB xfx r7950 core
corsair hx1050(1050w)
coolermaster v8 180w cpu fan
total cost around £1,200

do you like the look of it?



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12 Dec 2012, 5:11 pm

Overkill, but a FANTASTIC machine! :)

What'cha gonna' do with that G460 when you're done with it? ;) You can find super-cheap 1155 mobos and 2x2GB DDR3 would be less than $20... you could make someone a cheapo machine that would still beat almost anything from the Core2Duo era. :)



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12 Dec 2012, 6:33 pm

I have a spare 4Gb ram stick

Any other comments?



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12 Dec 2012, 7:44 pm

32GB of RAM and an SSD? The 80GB drive Maxtor drive you have is totally useless.



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12 Dec 2012, 8:09 pm

^^^ Especially for a swap file.

He's already bought all the parts and we went through this already - he didn't listen to anyone's advice.

This is a bragging thread. ;)

Don't worry, it's very nice - you'll love it.



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13 Dec 2012, 4:00 am

BorgPrince wrote:
32GB of RAM and an SSD? The 80GB drive Maxtor drive you have is totally useless.

The Maxtor drive will have the Windows swap file because of the limited read and writes of a SSD

Yes 32GB of ram



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13 Dec 2012, 4:22 am

it could come in handy when doing screen capture, sometimes my video files are in excess of a 100gb, that is with the best codec i could find without a noticable difference in quality.

so if i am playing from the same drive i am recording to i often get dropped frames simply because my ram cant hold the excess while it waits for stuff to be written.
this doesnt hold true for my main raid array but sometimes space is an issue.

with the possibility of a dedicated swap drive that issue would be much less noticable and completely gone below a certain size.
if one doesnt plan on using a raid array then it might be an okay investment the price of a good 80gig considered, the 32 gigabyte of ram would also help with this but i dont know if anything will actually utilize that much, i once had a habbit of uploading the entire eve online game to the ram to have the absolute minimum read/write time,
i used a generic utility called lmdisk to create a software ram drive and used a small script to copy the entire game to ram before launching it.


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13 Dec 2012, 5:00 am

Yes a SSD has limited writes, but it takes YEARS of rewriting the entire 128GB of the drive at least once a day before you run into any trouble. The speed lost by using a mechanical drive for the swap just isn't worth it, IMO.



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13 Dec 2012, 5:19 am

true,

for newer generations it should be more than the rated hours of operation for mechanical drives,


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13 Dec 2012, 5:35 am

Oodain wrote:
true,

for newer generations it should be more than the rated hours of operation for mechanical drives,


most hard drive in a windows install have the swap file and windows os on it.
so its good to move the swap file to another drive.



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13 Dec 2012, 6:11 am

again that all depends on the computer adn what it is used for, if you run a dedicated os disk then that and the swap file will under most uses not use the full bandwidth of the drive.

if you run raid systems then you are already dividing traffic between drives in one way or another.

i use a 72gb server disk rated at 15k rpm, it is almost as fast as an ssd in its own right, that is used exlcusively for my os and swap file.(perks of working with it)
i also have a raid array consisting of 4 disks of 500gb(recently upgraded from 2) with full striping, my redundency lies in a server, i upload any important files to that, it runs some older disks in raid 1, 2 seperate arrays.

i also have a couple of esata drives that i use in both systems, they should theoretically be the same as an internal sata drive, they feel like it as well, i use them for stuff i need both places but not frequently enough to warrant 2 copies, i am an absolute derp when it comes to filling drives, i have terabytes of old data layered upon old data, i really should clean at some point

i wouldnt have a need of a dedicated drive for my swap file, the performance gains from raid 0 are small enough to begin with if ones stripe size is on the small side then that makes the problem worse.

the only improvement i could think of would be a full solid state system, that however is far too expensive compaed to the performance gains, my laptop doesnt feel faster despite the ssd so i think i am at the limit of what actually matters to me

that said i would love to see some benchmarks of the pc when it is done and to see some pics, nothing like a little pcb porn, what stepping are the ram?


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13 Dec 2012, 7:02 am

Oodain wrote:
again that all depends on the computer adn what it is used for, if you run a dedicated os disk then that and the swap file will under most uses not use the full bandwidth of the drive.

if you run raid systems then you are already dividing traffic between drives in one way or another.

i use a 72gb server disk rated at 15k rpm, it is almost as fast as an ssd in its own right, that is used exlcusively for my os and swap file.(perks of working with it)
i also have a raid array consisting of 4 disks of 500gb(recently upgraded from 2) with full striping, my redundency lies in a server, i upload any important files to that, it runs some older disks in raid 1, 2 seperate arrays.

i also have a couple of esata drives that i use in both systems, they should theoretically be the same as an internal sata drive, they feel like it as well, i use them for stuff i need both places but not frequently enough to warrant 2 copies, i am an absolute derp when it comes to filling drives, i have terabytes of old data layered upon old data, i really should clean at some point

i wouldnt have a need of a dedicated drive for my swap file, the performance gains from raid 0 are small enough to begin with if ones stripe size is on the small side then that makes the problem worse.

the only improvement i could think of would be a full solid state system, that however is far too expensive compaed to the performance gains, my laptop doesnt feel faster despite the ssd so i think i am at the limit of what actually matters to me

that said i would love to see some benchmarks of the pc when it is done and to see some pics, nothing like a little pcb porn, what stepping are the ram?

9-9-9-25



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13 Dec 2012, 7:59 am

i should get that cetron between today and satuday



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13 Dec 2012, 1:03 pm

that isnt half bad for 8gb sticks.


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13 Dec 2012, 1:54 pm

Oodain wrote:
that isnt half bad for 8gb sticks.


the ram is not that costly like £22 per stick
as its direct from the manerfacteer