Scientists Debunk themselves into a corner

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Its not clear (after all its sonar) but it's pretty convincing it's man made and not natural. Now the archaeologists are fighting to claim its just sea levels rose much more recently than supposed, now they are climate experts too

Nonsense.

There is no evidence that sea levels have fallen anywhere near that low. Even in the coldest part of the last glaciation, it was only around 100 to 120 meters lower. These would require sea levels of something like seven or eight times lower.

From your own link:

Ok well then are they claiming the sonar is fake? this reminds me of the Millenium falcon under the Baltic sea and Yokaguni monument off Japan. Except the Cuban monument unambiguously looks man made.

A simple sub sent underwater fixed with cameras might blow the entire archaeological community to smoke.

Found at a depth of 2,000-meters, these strange underwater pyramid structures were examined with the help of a sonar, according to oceanographer Dr. Verlag Meyer. Scientists have processed all of the data and concluded that the surface of these pyramids – each larger than the pyramid of Cheops in Egypt – is perfectly smooth, and might be thick glass.



Game set and match = except somehow nobody is game to send a sub 2000 mtrs

Who said the sonar is fake?

Sonar is reportedly very difficult to interpret accurately. It's not surprising that people who want to believe in magic see magic in it.

If you want to investigate, raise the money and operate an expedition instead of just making up what you want to be there.

Searching for information about "Dr. Verlag Meyer", no such person seems to have ever existed. If the article you got that from is quoting people who have never existed, why should anyone believe anything in the article?

^^^ Damn! it is a fake story, oh well, once in a while the media spreads hoaxes.

Oh well, they even faked a BBC article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1697038.stm

Should have known it was too good to be true, I feel like Fox Mulder being spun a lie by Smoking man.

Regarding that underwater "image", I'm not absolutely positive but I am very sure that there is not enough natural light at that depth to see very far at all. A few feet would be about it.



If that was a real image, it wouldn't cover a very large area at all. Maybe a few feet across and would require powerful lights to illuminate the area.

This is reportedly the sonar map itself:

^^^ Yeah the sharp lines/angles should have been a give-away. Something underwater for 50,000 years would be completely eroded and covered in coral.

I am banking on further inquiry off the coast of India where there is good evidence of harbours > 9000 years old
https://www.good.is/lost-underwater-ind ... vilization

Such harbours probably connected India with the Red sea and Mediterranean going back to the time Plato was referring to. I think archaeologists should be objective and investigate because the likely evidence shows
a) Civilisations going back to what they call pre-history were more capable than theorised (e.g. seafaring)
b) Had skills that were lost over time and then re-discovered (e.g. astronomy, sea travel, agriculture and building).

A 9,000 year old harbor in India makes sense.

I think that most subsistence hunters have to keep moving on a regular basis as they hunt out the area they are in. Fishing, on the other hand, should be more consistent provided that they don't overfish the resources. So older fishing villages seem reasonably likely.

While reading about the sunken Cuban city, I came across something that was unbelivably loony. Someone had the opinion that it would have been above the water level based on his idea that the Gulf of Mexico was seeing far more evaporation than precipitation (he didn't mention river drainage at all). Unless there is a "dam" across the entrance to the Gulf of Mexico at the time that was no more than about 100 meters deep, it has no possibility of being true.

Those claims aren't all that far-fetched.

It's specific claims of aliens, technologically advanced civilizations and Atlantis that get treated as bonkers, because they are.

Stone age civilizations having widespread trade networks doesn't mean they were living in urban centres or had way more advanced tech than we're aware of.

I know someone from Cuba who I worked with for about 15 years who liked to talk about how the sea floor off of Cuba suddenly dropped off into the abyss. He said that you could be swimming out with a scuba mask and suddenly find yourself looking at something like a wall that went down and down and down and down.

Interesting how close Florida was to the Yucatan before sea level rises.

Civilisation collapse means the ruins might have been repurposed (e.g. egypt and South America) or completely vanished, for example the earliest example of toilets and indoor plumbing (even upstairs), brick buildings and town planning was from the Indus Valley but strangely these signs of civilisation were forgotten from 1500BC and didn't re-appear in India for another 3000 years.

Our ancestors migrated along coastlines so naturally the first usable technology is going to be sea going vessels for transporting people and goods for trade/settlement and fishing. Our digestive system is interesting, even though seafood constitutes a small % of our modern diet, we still able are able to eat a wider range of sea plants + animals > land. this indicates early on we were heavily reliant on the sea. Most land plants and animals are poisonous or inedible to humans. Perhaps before the younger dryas our populations happily lived off the plentiful supplies from coastlines.