something I don't get about asteroid and meteor impacts

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11 Jan 2011, 2:40 am

larval amphibians (and paedomorphic adults, like some salamanders) do have gills and extract oxygen from the water.



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11 Jan 2011, 3:08 am

to LORDOFTHEMONKEYS..........i'm weird with technology, no cell phone, no text or twit, use macbook for email and internet only.....it's a wolf thing.

if you were to verbally explain to me what you meant by mutt, i would hear-------my apple is in my linus lunchbox and clint has it at the terminal.

oh god, that's really sad isn't it....or as the song goes, this is ground control to major dan, time for blastoff.



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11 Jan 2011, 1:04 pm

danandlouie wrote:
....or as the song goes, this is ground control to major dan, time for blastoff.

Standing there alone, the ship is waiting,
All systems are go -
Are you sure?
Control is not convinced, but the computer
Has the evidence -
No need to abort -
The countdown starts -

Watching in a trance, the crew is certain,
Nothing left to chance -
All is working,
Trying to relax up in the capsule,
"Send me up a drink,"
Jokes Major Tom -
The count goes on -


- Peter Schilling, "Major Tom (Coming Home)"


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18 Jan 2011, 9:50 pm

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Keep in mind also the massive fires that the impact would have started across the proto-North-American continent, during an era when Earth's atmosphere had more free oxygen than it does today...

Crocodilians are not dinosaurs - they are reptiles which descended from dinosaurs. Some life forms were able to adapt in time - the therapods, for instance, would seem to be ancestor to modern birds, the feathers being an evolutionary adaptation to changing temperatures. Further, water living seems to cushion environmental effects on evolution (cf sharks and coelecanths).


crocs are not descended from dinosaurs. They were contemporary with dinosaurs. They vie with birds for the honor of being the closest living cousins of the dinosaurs.

Living in water probably cushioned from the disasterous climate change.



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19 Jan 2011, 2:30 am

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Living in water probably cushioned from the disasterous climate change.


That is about right. The proto-crocs and fished dived for their lives. The proto-mammal burrowed into the ground for their lives.

And that is why we are here and not the dinosaurs.

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19 Jan 2011, 3:03 am

Crocs have the unique ability to diffuse CO2 in their blood into constituent atoms and thus avoid CO2 poisoning. This allows them to stay submerged for long periods of time, which helped many species to survive the K-T Event. Also Crocs are the last living Archosaurs, who preceded Dinosaurs. If you look at what their species was like during the Cretaceous, you can see how utterly scary they were back then, and how much hardier they were back then, in addition to being gigantic. Also, all species, including mammals and amphibians, suffered tremendously (~70-75% of all species died out during this event). However, our genera are not gigantic and don't need mega flora to feed us, thus the world no long suited dinosaurs.. Also, there was probably an abundance of dead dinosaur to eat for a long time, so the scavengers, like mammals, definitely made it big for a while.



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19 Jan 2011, 8:39 am

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Crocs have the unique ability to diffuse CO2 in their blood into constituent atoms and thus avoid CO2 poisoning. This allows them to stay submerged for long periods of time, which helped many species to survive the K-T Event. Also Crocs are the last living Archosaurs, who preceded Dinosaurs. If you look at what their species was like during the Cretaceous, you can see how utterly scary they were back then, and how much hardier they were back then, in addition to being gigantic. Also, all species, including mammals and amphibians, suffered tremendously (~70-75% of all species died out during this event). However, our genera are not gigantic and don't need mega flora to feed us, thus the world no long suited dinosaurs.. Also, there was probably an abundance of dead dinosaur to eat for a long time, so the scavengers, like mammals, definitely made it big for a while.


Life was Good, back then.

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19 Jan 2011, 2:16 pm

Haha, yeah. Higher oxygen content, thicker atmosphere, arthropod gigantism. Though not nearly as scary as the pre-Permian event (insects & etc) where I've seen fossils of 6 foot long scorpions and dragonflies with 4 foot wing spans. Every extinction event has made more advanced life possible. Now we probably have the means to stop an asteroid event. Its almost like evolution produced a species to do this as it got tired of rebuilding every 60 million years or so. Like a natural step in evolution. 8)