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20 Mar 2011, 1:02 am

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Sigh...

Did you miss the part where I wrote "I'm not saying I believe this"?

No, I saw that, hence why I drew a distinction between you and "the HAARP conspiracy nuts." You didn't give any compelling reason why we should suspect the standard explanations of seismic activity to be lacking, and neither have any proponents of the HAARP conspiracy theory.


I missed that distinction. I find it funny that on a support site for people with (or at least believing they have) autism and asperger's that I can't understand the "meaning" behind people's words. I can't even get a break online. LOL. Sigh, oh well...

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I am merely saying I found the connection interesting and wanted to post it to WP community to see what all of you thought.

Well then, you have your answer: 4 of 6 respondents to your thread so far regard the idea as hogwash, 1 is vague but expresses misgivings, and the last has a history of buying into crazy ideas from conspiracy sites.


Hmmm.... *goes back to underground lair to rethink things*


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20 Mar 2011, 1:07 am

I think it is possible that could cause earthquakes but in many cases where it is blamed it is unlikely.

If it is being used, which I believe it might it is much more probable that is being used to manipulate the weather itself.


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20 Mar 2011, 1:10 am

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If it is being used, which I believe it might it is much more probable that is being used to manipulate the weather itself.


Check out this site. Compare the information under "Hurricane Katrina – August 23-30, 2005" and "Hurricane Ophelia – September 8-16, 2005". Tell me what you think about that.


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20 Mar 2011, 1:26 am

Double post.


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20 Mar 2011, 1:27 am

kxmode wrote:
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If it is being used, which I believe it might it is much more probable that is being used to manipulate the weather itself.


Check out this site. Compare the information under "Hurricane Katrina – August 23-30, 2005" and "Hurricane Ophelia – September 8-16, 2005". Tell me what you think about that.


It suggests that it very well may be connected. I am not physicist or weather analaysist but would like to see large amounts of data compared including everything from electro magnetics, seismic, atmospheric pressure and probably an endless list of other things. This blog posts regular updates on weather related phenomena.

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/


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20 Mar 2011, 2:20 am

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If it is being used, which I believe it might it is much more probable that is being used to manipulate the weather itself.


Check out this site. Compare the information under "Hurricane Katrina – August 23-30, 2005" and "Hurricane Ophelia – September 8-16, 2005". Tell me what you think about that.


It suggests that it very well may be connected. I am not physicist or weather analaysist but would like to see large amounts of data compared including everything from electro magnetics, seismic, atmospheric pressure and probably an endless list of other things. This blog posts regular updates on weather related phenomena.

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/


Taken from http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/about/
"Our planet is dying and this is no mere rendezvous with a date on a Mayan calendar in 2012. It’s the mass termination of life on planet Earth. Nature is under a scientific directive. It is irreversible. It is the extinction protocol. In 2010, the planet was ravaged by the worst flooding seen in 1000 years, Pakistan, Colombia, and Australia. Profound earth-changes have already devastated the planet and even more catastrophic change is yet to come. We are entering a period of extreme volcanism. Chaitén (Chile) erupted after being dormant for 9500 years, Eyjafjallajökull (Iceland) erupted after 187 years, and Sinabung volcano (Indonesia) erupted after 400 years. Planetary tremors have begun shaking the globe. They will intensify. Earth’s magnetic field is faltering and moving towards a polarity reversal as we approach the solar maximum (2012-2013). The energy unleashed in earthquakes is rising and the planet’s climate is becoming increasingly inhospitable and will be soon pushed to the brink of collapse. Civilization is poised on the precipice of the most stupendous crisis in Earth’s history and we are running out of time to save what remains left of the human race."

I always get a bit uncomfortable visiting sites with information about 2012 or predictions of earth's demise. I won't go into reasons why because this is not the appropriate forum. Basically my faith and knowledge of the scriptures does not support the above quoted words.


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20 Mar 2011, 2:51 am

I attempt to ignore the 2012 stuff. It does my head in. If there is for any reason truth to any "2012" thing it is well well well hidden amongst a pile of none sense


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20 Mar 2011, 2:55 am

I can't wait until 2013


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20 Mar 2011, 3:05 pm

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I can't wait until 2013


Me too! :)


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20 Mar 2011, 7:03 pm

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I can't wait until 2013


Me too! :)


What year do you figure they will latch on to next? :D
I remember back in 2000-2003 there was a big sensation on the conspiracy-oriented net about the planet Nibiru returning in late 2003. When it didn't happen, I noticed up until ~2007 there wasn't that much news in terms of apocalyptic conspiracy theories, but after that point a lot of the 2003 Nibiru nutters latched on to the 2012 Mayan catastrophe thing-a-ma-jig
It seems at the turn of most centuries dooms day scenarios pop up amongst people, and even more so at the end of a millennium. The year 999 comes to mind for me :)


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20 Mar 2011, 8:06 pm

It's funny that so many people seem to *want* something apocalyptic to happen, so frequently.



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20 Mar 2011, 8:09 pm

kxmode wrote:

I always get a bit uncomfortable visiting sites with information about 2012 or predictions of earth's demise. I won't go into reasons why because this is not the appropriate forum. Basically my faith and knowledge of the scriptures does not support the above quoted words.


Not to worry. We will have a big laugh about it in 2013. See you then, if I am still alive.

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20 Mar 2011, 9:55 pm

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Hmmm.... *goes back to underground lair to rethink things*


please don't be discouraged from speaking what's on your mind. what you think is important. 8)



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20 Mar 2011, 11:54 pm

Vigilans wrote:
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I can't wait until 2013


Me too! :)


What year do you figure they will latch on to next? :D
I remember back in 2000-2003 there was a big sensation on the conspiracy-oriented net about the planet Nibiru returning in late 2003. When it didn't happen, I noticed up until ~2007 there wasn't that much news in terms of apocalyptic conspiracy theories, but after that point a lot of the 2003 Nibiru nutters latched on to the 2012 Mayan catastrophe thing-a-ma-jig
It seems at the turn of most centuries dooms day scenarios pop up amongst people, and even more so at the end of a millennium. The year 999 comes to mind for me :)


Not to throw out scriptures but Jesus even said, concerning when the end would come, "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Mark 13:32, Revised Standard Version, Catholic edition). If Jesus did not know, the angels do not know, or even Satan and his demons do not know, then how can puny humans throw out specific dates? Of course if people don't believe in the Bible, or even know what's in the bible because they don't read it, then they will likely put faith in predictions like 2012.


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21 Mar 2011, 8:06 pm

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Utter balderdash. 3.6 megawatts which is 3.6 joules of energy per second is chump change compared to the energy generated by tectonic plates grinding against each other, which is what causes earthquakes.

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That would be 3600000 joules per second, I think.

But it is still ridiculous to think these earthquakes are induced. We do not have nearly the level of understanding of such matters to actually control them.


3.6 megajoules per second. Thanks for the correction. This is still chump change compared to the energy generated when tectonic plate crunch each other.

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21 Mar 2011, 10:15 pm

The history of quakes is a lot older than H.A.A.R.P.

All volcanos have been dormant for a while when they blow, often in long cycles.

The earth is periodically subject to massive change, some humans survive.

The origens of H.A.A.R.P. are in listening for the shock waves of atomic bombs, the upper air is a good resonater.

Tesla did build an earthquake machine, but it was local.

The weather changes on it's own.

The Jonestown flood was not the revenge of the British King.

Humans have not been around long enough to record the vast climate changes shown in Geology. Rain, floods, dust storms, earthquakes and volcanos have been much worse in the past.

2012 fits with a 26,000 year cycle of things that leave mile wide craters.

Earthquakes lights have been long recorded, some before quakes, others just from crustal stress, it is natural.

All we can do is wait and see, and draw paintings of it in caves.