12 Sep 2011, 8:18 am
Tom_Kakes wrote:
The best way to be able to boot all 3 OSes I found was to re/install grub to the Linux root partition (not hd0). Then reinstall chameleon, it will detect Linux (grub) and windows.
If your using an osx86 distro, chameleon should be included in the startup disc (menubar) when you get to disk utility.
Thanks.
If your using an osx86 distro, chameleon should be included in the startup disc (menubar) when you get to disk utility.
I will play with a Mac some day...
12 Sep 2011, 9:05 am
Cornflake wrote:
Tom_Kakes wrote:
The best way to be able to boot all 3 OSes I found was to re/install grub to the Linux root partition (not hd0). Then reinstall chameleon, it will detect Linux (grub) and windows.
If your using an osx86 distro, chameleon should be included in the startup disc (menubar) when you get to disk utility.
Thanks.If your using an osx86 distro, chameleon should be included in the startup disc (menubar) when you get to disk utility.
I will play with a Mac some day...
Go for it cornflake. Macports will make you feel right at home
12 Sep 2011, 9:19 am
12 Sep 2011, 10:10 am
Cornflake wrote:
Ooh - that does look interesting...
But I'd feel obliged to experience OSX as it appears out of the box, at least for a little while.
But I'd feel obliged to experience OSX as it appears out of the box, at least for a little while.
Lol
Yeah all of 5 minutes.
Unix is no fun without a package manager...
12 Sep 2011, 11:50 am
Oh dear... That good, huh? So it seems the odd poke about I've had with OSX is about the top-n-tail of it. I thought it all looked bleedin' obvious.
Didn't get under the hood because I didn't have the machine for too long, but it begins to look like there isn't much of a hood to get under. 
I'd kind-of assumed that there would be something like a Debian package manager behind all that gloss but I can see now that's unlikely.
Just another nailed-down (but better) proprietary system. Ho hum.
12 Sep 2011, 12:03 pm
12 Sep 2011, 2:45 pm
Cornflake wrote:
Oh dear... That good, huh? So it seems the odd poke about I've had with OSX is about the top-n-tail of it. I thought it all looked bleedin' obvious.
Didn't get under the hood because I didn't have the machine for too long, but it begins to look like there isn't much of a hood to get under.
I'd kind-of assumed that there would be something like a Debian package manager behind all that gloss but I can see now that's unlikely.
Just another nailed-down (but better) proprietary system. Ho hum.
Didn't get under the hood because I didn't have the machine for too long, but it begins to look like there isn't much of a hood to get under.
I'd kind-of assumed that there would be something like a Debian package manager behind all that gloss but I can see now that's unlikely.
Just another nailed-down (but better) proprietary system. Ho hum.
Pretty much
Don't get me wrong, cocoa is really nice to use the fonts are sweet and everything is intergrated in a really nice way *but* if you want to do more than the average user (os wise) your either going to want to install macports (which is very like apt) or your just going to use Linux.
Macports isn't great though. Most packages are just backported from GNU/Darwin so are sometimes broken and not updated frequently.
@madbones
Glad you got it sorted. Why you need another install of osx?
12 Sep 2011, 4:05 pm
Tom_Kakes wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Oh dear... That good, huh? So it seems the odd poke about I've had with OSX is about the top-n-tail of it. I thought it all looked bleedin' obvious.
Didn't get under the hood because I didn't have the machine for too long, but it begins to look like there isn't much of a hood to get under.
I'd kind-of assumed that there would be something like a Debian package manager behind all that gloss but I can see now that's unlikely.
Just another nailed-down (but better) proprietary system. Ho hum.
Didn't get under the hood because I didn't have the machine for too long, but it begins to look like there isn't much of a hood to get under.
I'd kind-of assumed that there would be something like a Debian package manager behind all that gloss but I can see now that's unlikely.
Just another nailed-down (but better) proprietary system. Ho hum.
Pretty much
Don't get me wrong, cocoa is really nice to use the fonts are sweet and everything is intergrated in a really nice way *but* if you want to do more than the average user (os wise) your either going to want to install macports (which is very like apt) or your just going to use Linux.
Macports isn't great though. Most packages are just backported from GNU/Darwin so are sometimes broken and not updated frequently.
@madbones
Glad you got it sorted. Why you need another install of osx?
Because I need Snow Leopard installed.
So what im going to do is:
Format my drive into 3 partitions again but this time with Guided Partition Tables so I can upgrade to snow leopard without wasting a DVD R that I have to boot into the Snow Leo disk(I have no CDRs).
12 Sep 2011, 4:21 pm
Tom_Kakes wrote:
Don't get me wrong, cocoa is really nice to use the fonts are sweet and everything is intergrated in a really nice way *but* if you want to do more than the average user (os wise) your either going to want to install macports (which is very like apt) or your just going to use Linux.
Yep, it was the beautifully consistent integration which struck me most, and I can see the same thing on the iPhone. (Android here, of course )
There didn't seem to be a hair out of place and after a short "now, where's the most likely place to find ..." session I had that MacBook running on my LAN in no time with none of the (then) equivalent Windows twitching and bitching.
If my financial situation hadn't changed (I had to let the consultancy work go for my sanity's sake) I would definitely have a well-stuffed Mac Pro or two here by now, even if only for Photoshop work and a specific music-related app. I use - which are, coincidentally, the only reason why I still have a running Windows installation.
I think for the tinkering value, a Hackintosh is definitely the way to go. At the very least it's cheaper.
13 Sep 2011, 6:05 am
Madbones wrote:
Tom_Kakes wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Oh dear... That good, huh? So it seems the odd poke about I've had with OSX is about the top-n-tail of it. I thought it all looked bleedin' obvious.
Didn't get under the hood because I didn't have the machine for too long, but it begins to look like there isn't much of a hood to get under.
I'd kind-of assumed that there would be something like a Debian package manager behind all that gloss but I can see now that's unlikely.
Just another nailed-down (but better) proprietary system. Ho hum.
Didn't get under the hood because I didn't have the machine for too long, but it begins to look like there isn't much of a hood to get under.
I'd kind-of assumed that there would be something like a Debian package manager behind all that gloss but I can see now that's unlikely.
Just another nailed-down (but better) proprietary system. Ho hum.
Pretty much
Don't get me wrong, cocoa is really nice to use the fonts are sweet and everything is intergrated in a really nice way *but* if you want to do more than the average user (os wise) your either going to want to install macports (which is very like apt) or your just going to use Linux.
Macports isn't great though. Most packages are just backported from GNU/Darwin so are sometimes broken and not updated frequently.
@madbones
Glad you got it sorted. Why you need another install of osx?
Because I need Snow Leopard installed.
So what im going to do is:
Format my drive into 3 partitions again but this time with Guided Partition Tables so I can upgrade to snow leopard without wasting a DVD R that I have to boot into the Snow Leo disk(I have no CDRs).
Sounds like a plan. Just make sure you use chameleon to boot osx as grub can be a pain to get sleep images to resume.
@cornflake
Yep it seems so much to spend on a flashy box that contains pretty much bog standard usually cheap hardware. Efi is all that really sets macs apart from most pcs.
