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18 Oct 2012, 11:42 am

CranialRectosis wrote:
Bad ram tends to return errors that are ram specific. You will often see errors like 'the address at x0000ww8899 (fictitious) was not reacheable' or something like that. These tend to occur before things get to the BSOD stage.

Bad ram tends to cause posting issues by the time it gets to the BSOD. Your motherboard should be beeping at you and the OS would often be unreacheable once bad RAM gets to the point where it is crashing you to a BSOD.

While RAM is a possibility, it is not most likely and is a hard find and fix. Start lower down the tree.

I'm still thinking virus and malware.

What virus scan are you using and are you POSITIVE you are up to date?
Did you download, install and run malwarebytes?


I disagree, I had bad RAM in my work computer, but not a single RAM related BSOD. I did everything I could think of, and finally gave up and ran memtest86, and nearly messed myself when I saw the number of errors it showed within the first 30% of the test. Back to the OP, try reseating RAM and cards (if it's a desktop). Make sure your drivers are up to date, along with Windows. It won't hurt a thing to run a memory test.



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18 Oct 2012, 2:25 pm

My dad tried a system restore. We'll see how that goes first.


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18 Oct 2012, 9:05 pm

Still getting blue screen of death....seemed to be caused by trying to install a program though (in this case Java. Seemed to work after having Firefox closed though. System restore has alleviated the problem but not solved it, so I think the issue is a defective hard drive.


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22 Oct 2012, 7:22 am

At this point, if you have run Malwarebytes and have updated and run your virus scan, and have attempted a system restore and we know the temps in the case are in the normal range. We know due to CPUz and GPUz that the CPU and GPU are running within spec so it is time to start looking at cables and RAM.

Turn the box off and disconnect from power. Let it cool 5 minutes.

Clean the PC. Use a vacuum with the crevice tool (don't touch the pc with it just use it to suck) and use compressed air to loosen dirt and dust and push it towards the vacuum.

If your hard disk is SATA (narrow cable about 1/2 inch wide), VERY CAREEFULLY and with an electrostatic wrist band attached, re-seat the SATA connectors on both the disk side and at the MOBO. Do be careful here. The connectors are delicate and I have seen people accidentally crack the headers just by jiggling them to get a better connection. If you do not yet have the snap in place type SATA connectors, now is a fine time to buy them and install them.

Remove and reseat any and all PCIe cards. I would actually remove all but the video card to eliminate a bad PCIe as the culprit. If you are running SLI or Crossfire, remove one card and the bridge and just run a single card for the time being.

Ensure the RAM is seated properly. I would unseat and re-seat the ram. Do not do this unless you are totally grounded and incapable of imparting an electrostatic shock to the RAM. Use a wrist strap.

I recommend you not touch the processor or the processor's heat synch unless you are prepared to re-seat them and are familiar with that process and have the tools and heat conductive solution to re-mate the processor to the heat synch.

These are all simple steps that may solve the issue but are more dedicated to eliminating possibilities.

The next step is memtest as alluded to by several people here.



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22 Oct 2012, 2:36 pm

CranialRectosis, thank you for all your support but it seems to have been entirely an issue of not having a Java plug in for Firefox and Adobe Flash 11.4 being hostile towards Firefox. The issue seems almost entirely resolved, but thank you for all your help. There are no viruses on here whatsoever and your tips helped me optimize this computer's speed in the process.


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31 Oct 2012, 1:57 pm

"a Java plug in for Firefox and Adobe Flash 11.4 being hostile towards Firefox"...

Why we start with software and not hardware issues.

I wish you well in your computing.

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31 Oct 2012, 2:07 pm

You know what I do? All that anti-spyware/anti-virus crap does is slow my computer down, and half the time you eventually end up getting a virus anyway... So what I do is, if my computer is running unusually slow or just acting weird, I check the task manager. If I see any processes I don't recognize, I shut them off. If they persist, I'll do a file search for them and then delete them. if THAT doesn't work(because sometimes they just turn themselves back on as soon as you shut them off), I repeat the last step in safe mode, and that takes care of it. In the event that those simple things CAN'T take care of my problem, well, I have my hard drive partitioned so that I only have the space needed for the operating system and some programs on one partition, and the other contains everything else. That way, in the event that I need to reinstall windows, I never lose any of my stuff. That, and I also have multiple computers in the house networked to each other, so I can always borrow one's hard drive space to back things up. I recommend trying this. It also helps to know how to mange a computer properly.

I still have a dell from 2001 that runs just fine because everything that's not necessary is disabled/deleted. msconfig is your friend.

One thing I have noticed on all my computers though, lately, is Chrome is being a RAM whore for some reason. Just to open up Yahoo's homepage, I'm seeing at least 3 chrome processes, one of which is eating up 77 megs, which is just insane. Is anyone else experiencing this as well? I may need to switch to a different browser again... Maybe chromium or Opera or something.



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31 Oct 2012, 7:18 pm

The worst RAM whore that comes to mind is when my Windows Media Player wouldn't stop updating...always made it freeze constantly for a few seconds going through the library and made all other programs inoperable while it was open.


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