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Kurgan
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25 Jan 2014, 11:46 am

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What is your theory on the collapse of the wavefunction per the double slit experiment ?


It could be (and probably is) caused by something inside THE universe, but it's something we do not understand yet. We shouldn't jump to conclusions about it being caused by something outside this universe just because science can't explain it yet. The vikings believed that lightning was caused by Thor, whenever he was pissed off about something. Today, lightning can be explained by electromagnetism.

The multiverse theory seems like a bandwagon everyone jumped onto a few years ago, but now everyone is quickly leaving it. What need is there for a multiverse theory to explain anything? Even if you can build a portal from one so-called universe to another, it means that our definition of what THE universe is needs to be changed, rather than jumping to the conclusion that there are many universes.



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30 Jan 2014, 1:26 am

Complete thread fail.

I have failed to properly explain an incomplete theory, as well as placed it in the wrong section, this really does belong in PPR.

It works out in my head, but I do not have the language to properly explain it to anyone.


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30 Jan 2014, 2:23 pm

Kurgan wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
What is your theory on the collapse of the wavefunction per the double slit experiment ?


It could be (and probably is) caused by something inside THE universe, but it's something we do not understand yet. We shouldn't jump to conclusions about it being caused by something outside this universe just because science can't explain it yet. The vikings believed that lightning was caused by Thor, whenever he was pissed off about something. Today, lightning can be explained by electromagnetism.

The multiverse theory seems like a bandwagon everyone jumped onto a few years ago, but now everyone is quickly leaving it. What need is there for a multiverse theory to explain anything? Even if you can build a portal from one so-called universe to another, it means that our definition of what THE universe is needs to be changed, rather than jumping to the conclusion that there are many universes.


Yes, I agree. It feels more like indulging a science-fiction appetite, yet, somehow it is included as a "scientific theory".



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30 Jan 2014, 3:58 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
What is your theory on the collapse of the wavefunction per the double slit experiment ?
It could be (and probably is) caused by something inside THE universe, but it's something we do not understand yet. We shouldn't jump to conclusions about it being caused by something outside this universe just because science can't explain it yet. The vikings believed that lightning was caused by Thor, whenever he was pissed off about something. Today, lightning can be explained by electromagnetism.

The multiverse theory seems like a bandwagon everyone jumped onto a few years ago, but now everyone is quickly leaving it. What need is there for a multiverse theory to explain anything? Even if you can build a portal from one so-called universe to another, it means that our definition of what THE universe is needs to be changed, rather than jumping to the conclusion that there are many universes.
Yes, I agree. It feels more like indulging a science-fiction appetite, yet, somehow it is included as a "scientific theory".

Some folk would rather believe a simple idea than a complex truth.

The concept of a multiverse is intriguing, somehow; but as an exploitable phenomenon, not so much.



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31 Jan 2014, 11:48 pm

An appeal to ignorance would be required for either case, if one were to argue in a logical fashion.

How about this - suppose one does exist. How would one prove it? Any relic brought back to this universe would then exist in this universe, and thus could be said to be a part of it. You could testify to the fact, but who would believe you? You could take the entire human race on a field trip to the n'th dimension, and they might believe you...but in the end, that's all that happens, is they believe you. The truth continues on whether we notice it or not.

Or, you can just create your own truth (but don't tell those science people!)