Why the heck does Apple say Macs Don't Crash!! !

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04 Aug 2008, 8:48 am

Yeah, OK ... but it amounts to the same thing ... because it6's generaly incompatibilities between the various 3rd-party vendor drivers that cause crashes not only on Windows, but also in MacOS and Linux variants



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04 Aug 2008, 12:33 pm

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If the ipod is a sample of apple's usual quality, I'd say Macs really crash, in the worst moment possible, really, that little gadget is so far the tiniest computer with the ability to crash I have actually seen so far...



Glad we sure the same opinion. I pick a Zune over an IPod anyday.



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04 Aug 2008, 12:54 pm

Lets see here, You pay a Butt-Load of money for a Toy that you can't

Upgrade Processor
Upgrade Hard Drive
Upgrade Graphics Card
Upgrade Hard Drive
Upgrade Memory

So even if you buy the cheapest $500 Mac you pretty much wasted a lot of money on low-end hardware. At least you can upgrade a $300 E-Machine off a Wal-Mart shelve


Besides Windows Mistake Edition my Windows Machines never crashed in 7 Years. [I never saw the BSOD on Win2000 or XP, And Even Vista for that matter.] However My IBook G4 is always crashing programs and gives me a kernal error once a month at least.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh# ... beginnings

Also don't install drivers that Windows doesn't varify as Geniune and you won't have an issue. [Or at least as much of an issue.Also use a Registry Cleaner for Goodness sakes and use firefox along with a trusted firewall like Sygate.



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05 Aug 2008, 2:46 pm

Computers crash. Mac has to advertise their PC by comparing it to Microsoft. Apple used to not have to do this because MS was so beneath them. And, if Macs were so stable and great then why did they trash their OS and go to BSD? Apple puts out good stuff but hardware drivers are probably not the most proven and robust on the market. It takes time. Always remember that Apple is a company that is out to make money just like MS.

An MS trainer once told me that, "MS is a marketing company that just so happens to sell software."

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05 Aug 2008, 8:07 pm

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And, if Macs were so stable and great then why did they trash their OS and go to BSD?

Macs are stable and great because they trashed their OS and went to BSD. MacOS 9.2.2 sucked ass.


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05 Aug 2008, 11:29 pm

Orwell wrote:
Oggleleus wrote:
And, if Macs were so stable and great then why did they trash their OS and go to BSD?

Macs are stable and great because they trashed their OS and went to BSD. MacOS 9.2.2 sucked ass.



Well BSD is a version of Unix so mac in some ways will count as linux.



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06 Aug 2008, 8:57 am

gamefreak wrote:
Well BSD is a version of Unix so mac in some ways will count as linux.

:? Not quite. From what I understand, Linux was made with the intent of being somewhat similar to Unix, and borrowed many of its principles for practical reasons, but wasn't actually based on Unix- it was inspired by Minix, but Torvalds made sure that his project, which was intended to be Free Software, didn't have any Minix code. Mac OSX, on the other hand, can actually trace its code straight back to Unix through BSD. Since Linux has a lot of similarities with Unix, and OSX is Unix, there are some shared characteristics between the two, but OSX is definitely not Linux at all.


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07 Aug 2008, 12:22 am

OS/X is not Linux and Linux is OS/X.

Yet in a way, both of their kernels are kinda the same thing.


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07 Aug 2008, 9:10 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
OS/X is not Linux and Linux is OS/X.

Yet in a way, both of their kernels are kinda the same thing.

OSX is built off of the Mach microkernel, and GNU/Linux is built off of the Linux kernel, which is a monolithic kernel. They have some similarities in that both are considered "Unix-like" but they are not the same kernel.


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15 Aug 2008, 10:19 pm

I got the notion that macs don't crash because they don't have thousands of different specs. The same reason why consoles don't often crash, no



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16 Aug 2008, 4:36 am

Well, about a year ago both my sister and I bought new laptops, same price, she got a Mac, I got a Toshiba with Vista Premium. Overall, we use them for pretty much the same thing, and they average the same amount of crashes and a need for restarts. Mine actually does this less, but I attribute this more to me being a slight amount more computer savy.

I know this leads off to another topic in these forumns, but overall, I like Vista more then XP save a couple of things at which Vista sucks: Torrents and video conversion (I do all of that on my old XP laptop).



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16 Aug 2008, 9:11 pm

Apple are really harking back to the glory days of the eary 90's and windows 3.1 and win95. Mac OS back then was a real slim, solid, fast, and virtually unbreakable. Windows users used to tell me that my os was no good because I could not get under the hood to look at it, my response was always that I didnt need too cos it never broke down. Ahh the good old days.

Just for the record the specs on my Mac Classic were Motorola 6800 chip, 40mb HD, 4mb Ram(deluxe model) mac os 7. (10mb compared to win95 minimum 40mb and not as good). Then the colour classic came out with a wopping 8mb of ram, who would ever need so much!! !!


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