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20 Dec 2008, 9:31 pm

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well i know overheating isn't the problem. especially if i can touch the heat sink w/o being zapped.


But heatsinks generally don't build up so much static, and if they do it is a serious problem.



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20 Dec 2008, 10:20 pm

If it seems like the heat sink will keep your coffee hot, you may have a problem..;)

I've been working on PCs since '87, and they've evolved a lot (we used to have a 'phantom' PC made out of parts sitting on a static bag. Worked fine, but we found every time we had an actual PC in the service area, some bonehead sales person would sell it to an unsuspecting customer. But even with no case, it worked fine, no real heat problems. Ooops, it was an 80286 tho...;)

I must confess, I haven't used a static strap since the late 80s...;) So far, it hasn't been that much of a problem. A good idea, though, if your shop requires them. Heck, they even gave me a static mat, one time..;)

One thing; anyone remember a time when they told you the leads off the bottoms of the SIMMS/DIMMs/flavor of the week chips had to be the same color? i.e, don't mix gold-colored and silver-colored pins together on the same system?

If you're getting over a 100 errors on a a memory module, it's time for a new one. Match the capacity and speed for sure (depending on the type of memory you had in there, motherboards will freak if you don't) Memory is pretty cheap now, so it'd be the best solution.



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21 Dec 2008, 1:41 am

I am always finding air flow to be an issue for my computer, its always
those ide cables, I became very adept at the ancient Italian art of ide
cable folding, and have them all neatly folded with a straight edge and
tucked away cleanly.



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21 Dec 2008, 1:44 am

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I became very adept at the ancient Italian art of ide cable folding

I also use a long cable tie to hold the fold together. It really wraps up all that expression.



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21 Dec 2008, 1:46 am

I do that too not tightly but just enough to hold the fold



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21 Dec 2008, 2:49 am

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I do that too not tightly but just enough to hold the fold

I also pad it up with something soft to avoid stressing the cable too much. Usually as well, I would "squash" the tie into shape after it is tied up.



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21 Dec 2008, 9:09 am

AgentCROCODILE wrote:
gamefreak wrote:
well i know overheating isn't the problem. especially if i can touch the heat sink w/o being zapped.


But heatsinks generally don't build up so much static, and if they do it is a serious problem.


Well the heatsink wasn't too hot either. Its was actually a little cooler than luke-warm.



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21 Dec 2008, 9:17 am

gamefreak wrote:
AgentCROCODILE wrote:
gamefreak wrote:
well i know overheating isn't the problem. especially if i can touch the heat sink w/o being zapped.


But heatsinks generally don't build up so much static, and if they do it is a serious problem.


Well the heatsink wasn't too hot either. Its was actually a little cooler than luke-warm.


What about the other heatsinks on your motherboard (Only the ones that are attached to chips, not ones attached to large three-legged devices)



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21 Dec 2008, 9:18 am

AgentCROCODILE wrote:
silentbob15 wrote:
I do that too not tightly but just enough to hold the fold

I also pad it up with something soft to avoid stressing the cable too much. Usually as well, I would "squash" the tie into shape after it is tied up.


Just stop using IDE!


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21 Dec 2008, 9:21 am

Fuzzy wrote:
AgentCROCODILE wrote:
silentbob15 wrote:
I do that too not tightly but just enough to hold the fold

I also pad it up with something soft to avoid stressing the cable too much. Usually as well, I would "squash" the tie into shape after it is tied up.


Just stop using IDE!

That would be possible if there were other ways of actually connecting the hard drives. I only have IDE controllers with IDE drives. No SATA or SAS or SCSI or any other bus to connect hard drives and CD-ROMs.



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21 Dec 2008, 9:42 am

Search "memory stick" and see what you get. Definitely NOT RAM. Why is it when I search this exact term, I never get RAM?

Older hard drives had separate controllers. These days all drives have IDE

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All drives are ATA whether parallel or serial



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21 Dec 2008, 9:53 am

Keith wrote:
Search "memory stick" and see what you get. Definitely NOT RAM. Why is it when I search this exact term, I never get RAM?

Older hard drives had separate controllers. These days all drives have IDE

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All drives are ATA whether parallel or serial


Yeah, but they dont all use air blocking ribbon cable!


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21 Dec 2008, 10:13 am

That's why some ribbon cables were designed to be less air obstructive and therefore rounded, but these are more apparent in ATA80 configuration cables