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29 Nov 2008, 6:45 am

There is a 64bit version of Firefox - but it goes under a different name. Just seems to crash more. The latest update for Firefox is 3.0.0.4. I'm not having any more problems with Firefox and youtube videos, although I use Flashblock addon so I can load as many pages of videos as I want and get them to start streaming when I'm ready. Saves bandwidth too.

I've got 2GB RAM Single Channel - and I have about 40% free. 512MB for Vista and the rest for Firefox taking up 333MB of RAM - :lol:

Ever since I enable dual channel memory, Vista kept falling over itself, returned it to single channel and all is well again, I've got to look into it thoroughly, but I can't be bothered.

When XP was released, I wasn't too keen on it, but I'm going to give Vista a chance, I just don't like that it needs 512MB of RAM minimum. Windows XP x64 and x64 Professional needs a minimum of 256MB so maybe the 64bit version uses the extra memory, I don't know. Not really looked into it fully.



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29 Nov 2008, 11:03 am

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I've been using Vista Ultimate x64 and getting the drivers for my sound card were the issue, but straight to their website and sorted. Functions the same as the 32 bit version.

I want to believe Vista will get better as it's put onto more powerful computers with bigger specs. But I'm not sure really.

Have you gotten pissed with the UAC always requesting permission for EVERYTHING? Took me a while to find it, it does help cope with Vista a little.

The 64-bit version may or may not be better, but I'm not going to drop a couple hundred bucks on it with dubious gains to be made. I'll stick with what I can get for free, and I have legal, free copies of Vista and XP, both 32-bit.

I doubt Vista will get better with more powerful computers, because Vista isn't even capable of making use of the powerful hardware I already have!

The security on Vista is extremely obnoxious. To the point that I couldn't bring myself to go through the security settings and figure out how to make it more secure.


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29 Nov 2008, 4:36 pm

Keith wrote:
Ever since I enable dual channel memory, Vista kept falling over itself, returned it to single channel and all is well again, I've got to look into it thoroughly, but I can't be bothered.


Send me a PM if you ever figure that one out. 8O



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29 Nov 2008, 5:43 pm

Depends what you want to do with your PC. I'm very happy with XP for Games and the few applications that I like to run. I've just loaded ubuntu on my laptop which was too slow/old for XP. It's fast now... so I'm impressed. I don't understand what Vista is for.



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30 Nov 2008, 5:42 am

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I don't understand what Vista is for.


It's a conspiracy by the medical companies. Those of us who use Vista need more blood pressure tablets.

Psychologists may also be involved in the conspiracy as they get more clients - Vista users needing counselling following post traumatic stress.

Todays Vista rant: I have an icon for a program on my desktop that I would like to run at startup. So I dragged and dropped the icon onto the Start > All Programs > Startup menu while holding down the Ctrl key. In theory this should have copied the shortcut icon there. No. Think again. Vista completely ignored the action. Looks like I need to find the relevant maze of Vista commands to do this quick, simple operation that would have worked on XP.

Vista = high blood pressure and lost time while cursing at the screen.


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30 Nov 2008, 7:21 am

Vista is just the new OS to keep with the times making use of common hardware. To look pretty and do nothing.



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30 Nov 2008, 7:34 am

Vista is complete BS.



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30 Nov 2008, 7:50 am

Keith wrote:
Vista is just the new OS to keep with the times making use of common hardware. To look pretty and do nothing.


It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so invasive. I don't have a computer to be entertained by Vista, I have it to work on mainly. An operating system should be something that sits in the background that facilitates that. Instead Vista likes to be in your face all the time.

Seriously, a day never goes by without me cursing Vista for one shortcoming or another. Simple little things like I mentioned above like dragging and dropping an icon should just work. I shouldn't have to get into a wrestling match with Vista to make this happen.

Microsoft have removed a huge amount of functionality that I took for granted in XP and simply abandoned it for Vista. The help provided with vista is a complete joke too. I've tried to use it on around ten occasions now for topics of a slightly technical nature and it has never had any matches. Vista help = zero matches. It invariably means a Google search to find solutions to Vista shortcomings and bugs.


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30 Nov 2008, 9:45 am

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Vista is just the new OS to keep with the times making use of common hardware. To look pretty and do nothing.

If Windows 7 ever gets out of vaporware stage, Microsoft better hope it's much, much better than Vista. If not, they're going to see their market share take a hit.


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30 Nov 2008, 9:53 am

Orwell wrote:
Keith wrote:
Vista is just the new OS to keep with the times making use of common hardware. To look pretty and do nothing.

If Windows 7 ever gets out of vaporware stage, Microsoft better hope it's much, much better than Vista. If not, they're going to see their market share take a hit.


Then Apple shall take over! :twisted:



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30 Nov 2008, 10:21 am

DeLoreanDude wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Keith wrote:
Vista is just the new OS to keep with the times making use of common hardware. To look pretty and do nothing.

If Windows 7 ever gets out of vaporware stage, Microsoft better hope it's much, much better than Vista. If not, they're going to see their market share take a hit.


Then Apple shall take over! :twisted:

Or Linux will start to have a measurable share. Ubuntu right now is better than Vista in terms of out-of-the-box functionality and usability. By a LOT. OpenSUSE and a few other distros are also supposed to have gotten really user-friendly, so if Windows manages to suck this badly with their next big thing, we could see Linux starting to rise in popularity.

I expect Windows to continue losing ground to *nix based systems in general. I highly doubt anyone in their right mind ever switched from being a Mac user to a Vista user. XP, maybe. XP is pretty good from what I can see. But Vista in my experience is far worse than its reputation.


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30 Nov 2008, 3:29 pm

The eeepc market is linux' massive attack. It will breed a lot of familiarity. Next springs focus on ultra fast boots will be another hammer blow. I project that next fall the focus will be running the entire OS from ram.

OSX needs to get its poop in a group in this regard or they are going to suffer vis-à-vis market share. Its a little like what cell phones and tablet computers did to the PDA market.

The interesting thing about a race like this is that the destination is decided by consensus. Windows is far in the lead, but suddenly the rest of the runners are heading a new way. MS needs to change gears and fast, and when was the last time they managed that?


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30 Nov 2008, 3:57 pm

Orwell wrote:
Keith wrote:
Vista is just the new OS to keep with the times making use of common hardware. To look pretty and do nothing.

If Windows 7 ever gets out of vaporware stage, Microsoft better hope it's much, much better than Vista. If not, they're going to see their market share take a hit.


What will they call Windows 7? Windows (Se7en I think) will have version no. 6.1 with a build number that increases with no function

95 950
95 1998
98se 2222
ME 3000
XP 2600 - maybe based on the NT software
Vista 6000 -> SP1 6001
etc. Yes, I know the build number for ME ...



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30 Nov 2008, 4:08 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
The eeepc market is linux' massive attack. It will breed a lot of familiarity. Next springs focus on ultra fast boots will be another hammer blow. I project that next fall the focus will be running the entire OS from ram.

Relative to Vista, they already have ultra fast boots.

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OSX needs to get its poop in a group in this regard or they are going to suffer vis-à-vis market share. Its a little like what cell phones and tablet computers did to the PDA market.

Whatever happens, Apple has a fiercely loyal core customer base that will keep them alive until they realize it's time to improve. As it stands, they're not bad. Need to work on window management, but that's really just about the only major problem I see with them.

Speaking of which- next project, installing GNOME in OSX! :twisted: Allegedly, it can be done. After all, OSX is BSD/UNIX based and can make use of the X Windows system. Just have to learn how to use MacPorts and Fink. Once I do that, OSX will be a stable, secure, fast OS with a nice, customizable UI and most of the software I'm interested in using.


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30 Nov 2008, 4:11 pm

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What will they call Windows 7?

Trick question, Windows 7 will never actually be released. They'll delay it for the next incarnation of Vista, and infuriated customers will abandon them en masse to use Ubuntu.


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30 Nov 2008, 4:46 pm

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What will they call Windows 7? Windows (Se7en I think) will have version no. 6.1 with a build number that increases with no function


After the seven deadly sins...

So... Windows 3.0 was Envy (Mac Envy)
and
Windows Vista was obviously Sloth...
and Windows XP was gluttony?