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15 Feb 2009, 10:39 pm

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I need more slots four 4 graphics cards, sound card, physics card, and wireless link....Given that so many video cards take the space of two cards youd think mb manufacotures whould come up with a new design....Maybe a new format that would fit in full towers

Why?

Because

Ah! In that case, I suggest you just knock up a PCB and populate it. Shouldn't be too difficult.


Ah yes, making an 8 layered board filled with smt devices, populated by devices that copst in teh singles more then the entire computer. I allready said why.

Nope. You have not said "why", just "what". With a "why" answered, maybe we could come up with a sensible response. Why stop at 4 graphics cards. Why not 400?

Maybe this would help?

Or the P4TX21 here.

Maybe a Tesla would help?

What price do you want to pay?

Obviously you think your application is somehow "reasonable", but it would appear manufacturers don't see the need for such a mobo.

If price is no object, build the PCB yourself... but no... you say that's too expensive. So how will you persuade a manufacturer to produce a "one-off" with what you are after?

I think they would start by asking you "Why?"


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15 Feb 2009, 10:43 pm

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I need more slots four 4 graphics cards, sound card, physics card, and wireless link....Given that so many video cards take the space of two cards youd think mb manufacotures whould come up with a new design....Maybe a new format that would fit in full towers

Why?

Because

Ah! In that case, I suggest you just knock up a PCB and populate it. Shouldn't be too difficult.


Ah yes, making an 8 layered board filled with smt devices, populated by devices that copst in teh singles more then the entire computer. I allready said why.

Nope. You have not said "why", just "what". With a "why" answered, maybe we could come up with a sensible response. Why stop at 4 graphics cards. Why not 400?

Maybe this would help?

YEs I said Why I neexded more...4000 yes that is sooo sensible

Or the P4TX21 here.

Maybe a Tesla would help?

What price do you want to pay?

Obviously you think your application is somehow "reasonable", but it would appear manufacturers don't see the need for such a mobo.

If price is no object, build the PCB yourself... but no... you say that's too expensive. So how will you persuade a manufacturer to produce a "one-off" with what you are after?

I think they would start by asking you "Why?"


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15 Feb 2009, 10:46 pm

1 Actually I did say why, read them all.
2. I didnt say just for me, I said given that graphics cards typically take teh space of two slots why dont thay...not just for me, but a standard to maximize slots
3. 400 now whos being unreasonable?


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16 Feb 2009, 12:08 am

Eggman wrote:
I need more slots four 4 graphics cards, sound card, physics card, and wireless link....Given that so many video cards take the space of two cards youd think mb manufacotures whould come up with a new design....Maybe a new format that would fit in full towers


They have. Video cards are going to be embedded in the CPU. You are definitely screwed if you still want four.

Are you driving four monitors or something? We drove four 21 inch monitors with my brothers computer using dual nvidia 8600GT. It worked, but we have now swapped to two computers running two monitors with singular nvidia 9800GTs.

Expecting some surly answer consistent to the other terse and monosyllabic ones given by Eggman in this thread. Perhaps "its none of your business why i need four", in which case "its none of my business helping you."

People ask you for details because it provides them with an avenue to assist you. You've been remarkably short in those.


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16 Feb 2009, 1:15 am

1 I never said none of your business
2. I did answaer read thropughtou
3 this is about more slots...not what i nedd them for. simply seeing that graphic cards use the space of two, then why dont thaey make them to compensate. Not about what I want for mne and why.


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16 Feb 2009, 2:51 am

YES, yes you can build that rig
You can get a MB like the ASUS P6T6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131358
Now, get yourself 4 water cooled single slot GPU's, something like this,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143143
Then get yourself a PCIE sound card like this,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6829102026
Then get yourself a PCIE Wifi card like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... ifi%20pcie
And no I didnt forget, the physics is now supported on nvidia cards with the latest drivers, so really now you would have 4 physics cards, better then and faster then one of the old ones.
Dont forget a big water cooling kit to cool this baby

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16 Feb 2009, 2:59 am

Also to clarify, before someone corrects me, that mother board I said only supports 3 way SLI with Nvidia, (I think only Nvidia chipsets support 4 way) not sure if it supports 4 way cross fire
But that was just a example, there are a dozen differnt configurations you could do with 4 water cooled cards.

EDIT- Maybe I am not understand Nvidia 4 way SLI, do you use 2 dual GPU's or 4 GPU's? That setup I posted above would be killer if it worked :lol:
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16 Feb 2009, 3:33 am

just out of curiousity, what is the point of this thread?



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16 Feb 2009, 5:03 am

a physics card but thats what a graphic cards for



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16 Feb 2009, 8:33 am

Eggman wrote:
1 Actually I did say why, read them all.
2. I didnt say just for me, I said given that graphics cards typically take teh space of two slots why dont thay...not just for me, but a standard to maximize slots
3. 400 now whos being unreasonable?
  1. Actually, you didn't say why. I read them all.
  2. Yes, you do want it just for yourself, presumably. If there was a demand for it, you would see other people on this thread who were also entrusiastic about your project. As it is, no one can see any logic in what you are asking for. It would appear to be unreasonable to house four graphics cards (driving eight monitors) in a single box - with a custom mobo - as it is much cheaper to use two boxes, with standard mobo's. Unless there was a part to your unvoiced "why" that precluded this.
  3. No. 400 is just as reasonable as 4. Given that we have no idea why you have come up with the unreasonable figure of 4 in the first place. Once upon a time, having two identical processors in one box seemed exorbitant. Now a Tesla gives you 768. They found a market for such a thing. We can't see a market for what you are talking about. You labelled the thread "more slots", but so far have given no adequate reason why this is a problem. Just insisting that you (singular) "need" 4 graphics cards doesn't constitute a reason.

Now, if there is some patentable idea behind the project you are planning, which you are afraid would be revealed, should you answer the question, then feel free to just say so.


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16 Feb 2009, 9:30 am

Eggman wrote:
1 Actually I did say why, read them all.
2. I didnt say just for me, I said given that graphics cards typically take teh space of two slots why dont thay


No - mine is very fine with one slot and does not take a lot of space:

$lspci | grep SiS
02:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 86C326 5598/6326 (rev 0b)



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16 Feb 2009, 11:12 am

Having read the posts 6 times, I can only draw one conclusion.

Hes annoyed that some PCI slots will never have the honor of receiving cards because they are blocked. It bugs him that slots must go unused. Its much ado about nothing, or perhaps more fairly, an offense to his aspie sense of propriety. That which has been designed must be put to use.

Eggman, you can get mobos with dual Lan jacks. With the highest end sound cards built in. On one board.

You can get motherboards with four PCIe. You need to look at gamers motherboards.

Here is one.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigaby ... ,1704.html

Regarding the physics card, read this: http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_thread_p ... d_id=64107


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16 Feb 2009, 4:25 pm

Thank you!


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16 Feb 2009, 4:50 pm

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just out of curiousity, what is the point of this thread?


I think the point is that no one here uses quad GPU's :lol:

I would love that type of set up just to say I had a fast gaming rig, but the $$$$ you would spend on this 8O
I am not sure, but I think 2 cards would be enough to run any game on max setting at a high frame rate?



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16 Feb 2009, 4:53 pm

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just out of curiousity, what is the point of this thread?


I think the point is that no one here uses quad GPU's :lol:

I would love that type of set up just to say I had a fast gaming rig, but the $$$$ you would spend on this 8O
I am not sure, but I think 2 cards would be enough to run any game on max setting at a high frame rate?


well no one means no one, and trust me, we are out there.
Not the point, the gu above ,y last one got it...,ore or less.


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16 Feb 2009, 7:00 pm

Anyway 4 graphic cards may now be amute point seeing how there are now ones with two cores...2 of those would = 4.....still sad that wastes two slots. I suppose the next step would be to have one with 4 cores.


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