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19 May 2009, 10:40 am

you mean that rm -r has a use other than trolling linux noob forums?



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19 May 2009, 10:44 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
you mean that rm -r has a use other than trolling linux noob forums?

Not really any use, per se... just reformatting would have been a lot faster. But this was fun.


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19 May 2009, 5:04 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
you mean that rm -r has a use other than trolling linux noob forums?


You evil bas***d and I thought you were one of the truer Christians :lol:


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28 May 2009, 8:02 pm

Okay, I'm all ready to re-enact this incident that this thread was created about. As soon as my lazy friend Levi wakes up and gets on Pidgin I'm going to run the command that we all love on a separate computer that I just installed Debian on and my friend is going to log our conversation. If he lets me post the convo here, you will all see if doing it on a Debian install differs from an Ubuntu install (it probably won't differ much, but we'll just see). If he doesn't let me, I'll make a video of it anyway and probably post it on YouTube and embed/post it here. I just wish he would hurry up and wake up!



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28 May 2009, 8:17 pm

It shouldn't be any different on Debian, since Ubuntu is just a Debian knock-off anyways.

It is somewhat different in OS X, as I verified recently. The --no-preserve-root option is unnecessary in OS X. Fuzzy probably still has the Pidgin log from that incident earlier today.


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28 May 2009, 9:55 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
you mean that rm -r has a use other than trolling linux noob forums?


You evil bas***d and I thought you were one of the truer Christians :lol:


Where in the 10 commandments does it say "Thou shalt not pwn teh noobs"? Where in the beatitudes does it say "Blessed are the noobs, for they shall be saved from pwnage"?



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29 May 2009, 3:12 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
you mean that rm -r has a use other than trolling linux noob forums?


You evil bas***d and I thought you were one of the truer Christians :lol:


Where in the 10 commandments does it say "Thou shalt not pwn teh noobs"? Where in the beatitudes does it say "Blessed are the noobs, for they shall be saved from pwnage"?


Dont worry. We have turned him on to the joys of pidgin chat, and he'll soon be pwning newbs with the worst of them.


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29 May 2009, 3:15 am

Orwell has now destroyed an installation of OSX in a similar matter.

Expect to see the movie "Orwell the destroyer" starring Conan the Librarian as this summers block buster.

I have the chat log from that too, but its a little on the long side(120 lines). So unless someone requests it, I wont post it.


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29 May 2009, 3:20 am

I'm requesting it :D

Was the fork bomb used this time? I'm curious as to what's left after its ran its course.



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29 May 2009, 7:34 am

Here you go.

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09:45
(09:45:13 AM) orwell_42: hey, I think it's just about time to see how OS X responds to rm -rf
(09:46:02 AM) Fuzzy: nods
(09:46:13 AM) orwell_42: my backup should finish in a minute
(09:46:22 AM) Fuzzy: as in, a few minutes, or today, or tomorrow
(09:46:23 AM) Fuzzy: ah
(09:46:31 AM) orwell_42: and then I install a stripped-down new OS X
(09:46:37 AM) orwell_42: with none of the bundled apps
(09:48:36 AM) orwell_42: well, actually, now 9 minutes or so until all the files are completely transferred into my external hd
(09:48:46 AM) orwell_42: then the Leopard will die
09:55
(09:55:04 AM) orwell_42: all right, I'm sitting at a root terminal and I'm bored of this OS
(09:57:52 AM) orwell_42: it seems to be going more slowly than in Ubuntu
(09:58:34 AM) orwell_42: ha!
(09:58:48 AM) orwell_42: it's showing the gigabytes of free hard drive space increasing as stuff gets deleted
(09:59:15 AM) Fuzzy: interesting!
(09:59:20 AM) orwell_42: and the --no-preserve-root option wasn't necessary
(09:59:26 AM) orwell_42: plain old rm -rf / does it just fine
(09:59:33 AM) Fuzzy: that is a surprise
(09:59:52 AM) orwell_42: well, they haven't done a great job of keeping up to date with upstream *nix development
(09:59:55 AM) Fuzzy: so there you go. linux is more safe than osx
10:00
(10:00:11 AM) orwell_42: aw...
(10:00:26 AM) Fuzzy: hmm?
(10:00:30 AM) orwell_42: it didn't delete /dev
(10:00:35 AM) orwell_42: "resource busy"
(10:01:08 AM) Fuzzy: it shouldnt. those are the drives, mouse, monitor
(10:01:20 AM) Fuzzy: fake files
(10:01:32 AM) orwell_42: lol, my Applications folder got deleted
(10:01:39 AM) orwell_42: but I can still browse the web just fine
(10:01:47 AM) Fuzzy: keep talking so that i know when you are gone!
(10:02:13 AM) orwell_42: I think it will be like Ubuntu, it will stay alive as long as what I have in RAM stays there
(10:02:17 AM) Fuzzy: whats left?
(10:02:22 AM) orwell_42: this time, I'm going to reboot and see if it remains
(10:02:26 AM) Fuzzy: k.
(10:02:37 AM) orwell_42: Firefox, thunderbird, Adium, quicksilver
(10:02:39 AM) Fuzzy: is the loss still in progress?
(10:02:50 AM) orwell_42: looks to be
(10:03:02 AM) orwell_42: hang on, I'm gonna quit thunderbird and see if it disappears
(10:03:54 AM) Fuzzy: still with me?
(10:03:59 AM) orwell_42: yeah, I'm here
(10:04:28 AM) orwell_42: Firefox lost its icon, it seems
(10:04:41 AM) orwell_42: ah, and Thunderbird is gone
(10:04:50 AM) orwell_42: once I've closed the app and it's not in RAM, it's gone forever
(10:04:52 AM) Fuzzy: if the deletes finish, we can try the bomb
10:05
(10:05:09 AM) orwell_42: dangit, I forgot to backup my virtual machine
(10:05:14 AM) orwell_42: oh well, I don't need XP anyways
(10:05:57 AM) orwell_42: and apps don't quit properly, they have to be force quit
(10:06:29 AM) Fuzzy: that indicates that they hook into something to stop, rather than having self contained quit code
(10:06:40 AM) orwell_42: it left stuff on my desktop alone, and my downloads folder is still full of crap
(10:06:53 AM) orwell_42: LOL!
(10:07:13 AM) orwell_42: it seemed to be stalled, so I ctrl-c to stop rm -rf /
(10:07:20 AM) orwell_42: and then tried to run it again
(10:07:32 AM) orwell_42: "sh: rm: command not found"
(10:07:48 AM) Fuzzy: probably cannot fork bomb then either
(10:07:59 AM) orwell_42: ls: command not found
(10:08:05 AM) orwell_42: I can still pwd and cd
(10:08:55 AM) orwell_42: all right, the whole system looks pretty desolate, all I've got left are adium and iterm
(10:09:02 AM) orwell_42: I'm going to reboot
(10:09:12 AM) Fuzzy: try the bomb
(10:09:14 AM) orwell_42: once I've got a fresh install, I'll tell you what the reboot showed me
(10:09:16 AM) orwell_42: oh right
(10:09:19 AM) orwell_42: how's it go again?
(10:09:20 AM) Fuzzy: or not
(10:09:26 AM) Fuzzy: your choice.
(10:09:32 AM) Fuzzy: something might be left then
(10:09:43 AM) Fuzzy: :(){ :|:& };:
(10:09:53 AM) orwell_42: it can't even render smilies properly anymore
10:10
(10:10:04 AM) Fuzzy: i was going to ask that
(10:10:08 AM) orwell_42: adios
(10:10:10 AM) Fuzzy: bye
(10:10:16 AM) orwell_42: dammit
(10:10:25 AM) Fuzzy: no forking?
(10:10:30 AM) orwell_42: syntax error near unexpected token ')'
(10:10:43 AM) Fuzzy: hang on. i will find a osx fork bomb
(10:10:45 AM) orwell_42: which was the first character in the fork bomb
(10:12:03 AM) Fuzzy: outta luck i think. that one should work.
(10:12:07 AM) Fuzzy: zsh, right?
(10:12:16 AM) orwell_42: whatever the default shell is in OSX
(10:12:39 AM) Fuzzy: z shell i think. plus apple script
(10:12:51 AM) Fuzzy: we should post this to the apple forums too
(10:13:01 AM) orwell_42: sounds good
(10:13:20 AM) orwell_42: my applications folder is conspicuously absent, so I'm pretty sure when I reboot I won't reconnect to Pidgin
(10:13:28 AM) Fuzzy: :(){ :|:& };:
(10:13:38 AM) Fuzzy: nope. its the same
(10:13:39 AM) orwell_42: so it will be a couple hours before I'm back on, since I have to set everything up again
(10:13:52 AM) Fuzzy: ok. see you then
(10:13:54 AM) orwell_42: later
(10:14:06 AM) orwell_42: (expose and spaces are still running)
10:15
(10:18:01 AM) orwell_42: on my other computer
(10:18:12 AM) orwell_42: filevault tried to do something while I was shutting down
(10:18:20 AM) orwell_42: it won't boot now
(10:18:37 AM) Fuzzy: nods
(10:19:06 AM) orwell_42: the splash screen just cycled over and over
(10:19:24 AM) orwell_42: now I'm loading up my disk for a clean install
10:20
(10:20:05 AM) Fuzzy: it would be handy to be able to peek at the file structure
(10:20:25 AM) orwell_42: yeah, but I don't think I can do that from the OSX disk
(10:20:41 AM) orwell_42: though I could just toss in a livecd
(10:22:23 AM) orwell_42: wait, I found a terminal
(10:23:38 AM) Fuzzy: when i wreck my two linux installs, i will have a third on disk
(10:23:56 AM) orwell_42: hm I unfortunately named my hd partition with a space
(10:24:08 AM) orwell_42: how do I cd to a directory with a space in its name?
(10:24:26 AM) Fuzzy: underscore
(10:24:40 AM) orwell_42: nope
(10:24:41 AM) Fuzzy: or put it in double quotes
(10:24:56 AM) orwell_42: there it is
10:25
(10:25:24 AM) orwell_42: well, /home is empty
(10:25:28 AM) orwell_42: so is /dev
(10:25:46 AM) orwell_42: ah, there's some stuff in /Users
(10:26:49 AM) orwell_42: mostly everything got deleted, but the downloads folder for my first (administrative) account is somehow intact
(10:27:06 AM) orwell_42: and the shell is bash, btw
(10:27:11 AM) Fuzzy: ok
(10:28:27 AM) Fuzzy: ok. gonna cut and paste the conversation
(10:28:40 AM) Fuzzy: i gotta get to the sunny portion of life
(10:28:52 AM) orwell_42: ttyl
(10:28:56 AM) Fuzzy: bye


This one wasnt as fun.


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29 May 2009, 9:51 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Here you go.

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(the conversation)


This one wasnt as fun.


Yeah it doesn't look like it was as fun. However, I found it funnier only because I'm a total mac hater, otherwise I would consider it to be the same



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29 May 2009, 10:28 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Orwell has now destroyed an installation of OSX in a similar matter.

Yeah, this one wasn't really as interesting. It was fun to open up a Finder window and watch my applications get deleted one by one, but other than that it was pretty dull. Once you've deleted one *nix system, there's not much new to see.

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Expect to see the movie "Orwell the destroyer" starring Conan the Librarian as this summers block buster.

Dang Mac users never reboot, so it's harder to pull off the Conan the Librarian trick properly. I normally set it as a hidden startup app, so they'll discover it on next reboot. Trouble is, Mac users can go months and months without a reboot, so the prank never hits.


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30 May 2009, 7:13 am

Then you need a reboot trick!


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30 May 2009, 11:43 am

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Then you need a reboot trick!

I could go around installing VNC on people's machines, but I'm pretty sure that crosses the line of legality.


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30 May 2009, 12:07 pm

Orwell wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Then you need a reboot trick!

I could go around installing VNC on people's machines, but I'm pretty sure that crosses the line of legality.


That sounds like a new experiment. Tunnel into one of our alternate machines, and un-install VNC remotely. :)


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31 May 2009, 3:50 am

I love the fact that Mac doesn't have the security of mainstream *nix platforms. And I laughed aloud when I read "sh: rm: command not found"

As for the VNC experiment, I don't see why it shouldn't work. SSH should work as well.