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11 Jan 2009, 1:23 pm

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If your looking for something for this one trip then go get a cheap-O but if your looking to hold onto an MP3 player for a long time go iPod. iPods are quality products, they have proven their worth by their continued popularity, their program stability, and sleek elegant design.

Yet anyone who really knows about technology (asides total Apple nuts - who are buying more on a religious basis) does not have one. *wonders why*



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11 Jan 2009, 1:36 pm

I had an iPod and lost it, the I got a Sansa c240 and lost that too. The iPod I got for my birthday and I was pretty happy with it, the Sansa I bought with my own money it was pretty good too. iPods are twice as expensive as generic mp3 players, but the iTunes program is really easy to use and the best part is that you don't need a credit card to buy songs of off iTunes... just buy an iTunes card at the convienence store and redeem it online. The Sansa can't play iTunes songs unless they are from iTunes Plus (although it plays pretty much everything else), so you have to either get a credit or prepaid card to buy songs, or you have to buy CD's and rip them to your computer.

Tell you the truth, I was going to get the new iPod Nano 4G with my Christmas money, but I decided to save it instead. I still have a mini CD player that will play CD-RW's, so I can just use iTunes to burn an audio CD. With audio CD's it doesn't matter which program burns the song, it's usually all the same for the CD player. Just be careful how many times you burn an iTunes song, after burning it as part of a playlist seven times it will no longer allow you to burn the song, you'll have to re-purchase it.


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11 Jan 2009, 1:47 pm

Buy a Samsung YP-P2. It has a touch screen, bluetooth (file transfer, hands free, stereo bluetooth for headphones, and that bluetooth profile that supports headphones with audio controls). It also has an FM radio with great reception. The battery lasts 35 hours at the most and it's a great MP3 player for anyone


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11 Jan 2009, 1:53 pm

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Buy a Samsung YP-P2. It has a touch screen, bluetooth (file transfer, hands free, stereo bluetooth for headphones, and that bluetooth profile that supports headphones with audio controls). It also has an FM radio with great reception. The battery lasts 35 hours at the most and it's a great MP3 player for anyone

It costs an awful lot more than the Fuze (which has the advantage of being expandable) and you only get bluetooth and a touchscreen for that extra dough.



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11 Jan 2009, 4:34 pm

Kangoogle wrote:
Yet anyone who really knows about technology (asides total Apple nuts - who are buying more on a religious basis) does not have one. *wonders why*

Yes, I don't know about technology. *rolls eyes*


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11 Jan 2009, 4:38 pm

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Just be careful how many times you burn an iTunes song, after burning it as part of a playlist seven times it will no longer allow you to burn the song, you'll have to re-purchase it.

Actually, if you buy them from iTunes plus or rip them from a CD in the first place you will have a plain old mp3 ..... and you can burn that as many times as you want.


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11 Jan 2009, 5:06 pm

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Actually, if you buy them from iTunes plus or rip them from a CD in the first place you will have a plain old mp3 ..... and you can burn that as many times as you want.

Exactly and additionally the whole iTunes Music Store is going to be DRM-free by the end of this quarter, so you will be able to do this with any song you bought there. (See http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.a ... ed-pricing)



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11 Jan 2009, 7:51 pm

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Kara_h wrote:
Actually, if you buy them from iTunes plus or rip them from a CD in the first place you will have a plain old mp3 ..... and you can burn that as many times as you want.

Exactly and additionally the whole iTunes Music Store is going to be DRM-free by the end of this quarter, so you will be able to do this with any song you bought there. (See http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.a ... ed-pricing)


ORLY? Well it's about f**king time! I've been trying to deal with Apple's mindf**ked DRM system ever since I lost my Nano. Plus, did you know that you can't use the Apple-encoded iTunes music files for Windows-based movie/presentation programs, such as WMM and Powerpoint? I've tried it, it just doesn't work. I'm glad Apple has finally decided to roll with universal compatibility. The only thing I ask is that they'd sure as hell better retrograde this to .mp4 and .aac files already in your library. I didn't spend $10 on The World Ends With You Original Soundtrack with DRM just to find out I have to buy it again to get the non-DRM package.


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11 Jan 2009, 8:08 pm

mp3 = standard audio format, frm-free
aac = apple proprietary audio format, drm
mp4 = standard video format, drm-free
[not sure what drm format apple uses for videos you buy]

Since apple will assumedly do the same as iTunes vs iTunes Plus where the MP3 costs more $$ than the AAC, I assume they will continue to do so and would not just give you a converter. Want the mp3 of your song? You should have bought it.


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11 Jan 2009, 8:11 pm

Roxas_XIII wrote:
The only thing I ask is that they'd sure as hell better retrograde this to .mp4 and .aac files already in your library. I didn't spend $10 on The World Ends With You Original Soundtrack with DRM just to find out I have to buy it again to get the non-DRM package.


At the moment they are offering to upgrade songs for 0.30 € or $.
Personally I hope that they will lower that price a bit, but I do not think that it's going to be a free upgrade.



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11 Jan 2009, 8:56 pm

Roxas_XIII wrote:
halfawake wrote:
Kara_h wrote:
Actually, if you buy them from iTunes plus or rip them from a CD in the first place you will have a plain old mp3 ..... and you can burn that as many times as you want.

Exactly and additionally the whole iTunes Music Store is going to be DRM-free by the end of this quarter, so you will be able to do this with any song you bought there. (See http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.a ... ed-pricing)


ORLY? Well it's about f**king time! I've been trying to deal with Apple's mindf**ked DRM system ever since I lost my Nano. Plus, did you know that you can't use the Apple-encoded iTunes music files for Windows-based movie/presentation programs, such as WMM and Powerpoint? I've tried it, it just doesn't work. I'm glad Apple has finally decided to roll with universal compatibility. The only thing I ask is that they'd sure as hell better retrograde this to .mp4 and .aac files already in your library. I didn't spend $10 on The World Ends With You Original Soundtrack with DRM just to find out I have to buy it again to get the non-DRM package.

Haven't you ever heard of Tunebite, noob?


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11 Jan 2009, 9:45 pm

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t0 wrote:
For iPod owners, what makes them "the best"? Our music players were cheaper than the similar iPod models and we don't feel like we're missing anything.

You don't know what your missing until you've gotten it.


You're right, I don't know. That's why I asked. Unfortunately you don't seem able to tell me...



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11 Jan 2009, 10:09 pm

Apple things are more expensive, yes, but they are also get better quality (and more durable components), great customer service if you have a problem or manage to break something, and a seamless integration (it is almost hard to talk about the iPod, iTunes, and the iTunes store as separate products at times because they operate so well together).

With a generic mp3 player how do you plan on managing the music (other than on the player itself)?


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11 Jan 2009, 10:11 pm

I've used iPods, I've used Zunes. I like the Zune a lot better than the iPod, and have missed nothing since replacing my iPod.



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12 Jan 2009, 6:49 am

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With a generic mp3 player how do you plan on managing the music (other than on the player itself)?


Actually that's not real hard. The Sony's and Samsungs I've used have their own library applications for Windows, as does the Nokia, that'll read CDs and rip them into MP3s or keep track of downloaded MP3 tracks.

And then there are the open source tools. Step out of the DRM reservation, and the world is your oyster.



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12 Jan 2009, 7:07 am

Umm, who said anything about being on a DRM reservation? Every song I have is in mp3 format. The only two songs I ever got in aac were a mistake and I immediately replaced them with the mp3s.


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