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13 Jan 2009, 7:43 am

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Its interesting to note that the larger thumb drives, such as xD cards are not using ntfs. Anyone know why?

At a guess... because NTFS is proprietary?

(amongst all the other aspects of it being a bloated, buggy, inappropriate file system.)


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13 Jan 2009, 7:55 am

FAT is old, go with NTFS. You can find a driver for NTFS on any OS anyway.


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18 Jan 2009, 1:02 pm

Now plans changed,

just got a laptop from someone, but it is too small for a dualboot, it only has got 60 Gb in two partition, one of which is already filled with windows XP and a few programs i'd like to keep

So now the second harddisk could also serve to have Ubuntu on it ? (I read this is possible)
and not only just 'data' as I planned in the first place.

Do I need another system for an OS or is it all the same ?



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18 Jan 2009, 1:29 pm

Orwell wrote:
Every OS in the world will be able to deal with FAT32 well enough, which is rather a shame since it's such a crappy filesystem. Why couldn't ext3 be the standard?
Because Micro$oft can't put a copyright on it?

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Ubuntu waited for the read and write NTFS driver to become stable, and it has been built into Ubuntu since the Gutsy Gibbon October 2007 release. Since Gutsy we have had Hardy Heron and Intrepid Ibex. It's great how many distros come out with a new version every six months. With Ubuntu it's April and October (, unless a delay which only happened once).
Yeah, now can you just use the version numbers like normal people please? Sorry if I sound like a prick, but things like "Hardy Heron" mean nothing to me. "Ubuntu 8.04" I can understand... Same thing applies to the macfans that keep going on about having "Leopard", instead of just calling it 10.5 like it is... I was starting to get pissed at msft for that too, with ME, XP, and Vista (the versions of 95, 98, and 2000 were acceptable because it was the year they were released), but returning to the version number is something I give them high praise for (if the only thing on this new release I so praise), since it makes it far easier to organize in my head if they use numbers instead of random animal names...

Fuzzy wrote:
Its interesting to note that the larger thumb drives, such as xD cards are not using ntfs. Anyone know why?

Because of aforementioned NTFS not getting along with other OS's... while the latest releases of Ubuntu and a few other distros exist that support NTFS, a great majority of them don't (and what support is there isn't that great...) Therefore, while FAT32 is incredibly old, it is the newest that still has wide support across all major platforms...



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18 Jan 2009, 4:00 pm

Seb wrote:
Ubuntu waited for the read and write NTFS driver to become stable, and it has been built into Ubuntu since the Gutsy Gibbon October 2007 release. Since Gutsy we have had Hardy Heron and Intrepid Ibex. It's great how many distros come out with a new version every six months. With Ubuntu it's April and October (, unless a delay which only happened once).


As much as I like the cute names, In ubuntu they are used to refer to the alpha versions only. When the public version is released, most people refer to them by version number, as there are so many variations. The version number also indicates the date of release, so you dont have to tack on 2007, 2008, 2009 and so such.

For example, your reference to a late release was 6.06. Its immediately apparent because the other releases are all .04 or .10. This spring we will see the release of 9.04.


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18 Jan 2009, 5:26 pm

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This spring we will see the release of 9.04.

You mean Jaunty Jackalope. :wink:


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18 Jan 2009, 9:06 pm

Orwell wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
This spring we will see the release of 9.04.

You mean Jaunty Jackalope. :wink:


Its not proving to be much different from 8.10 or 8.04 by the way.


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18 Jan 2009, 9:23 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
This spring we will see the release of 9.04.

You mean Jaunty Jackalope. :wink:


Its not proving to be much different from 8.10 or 8.04 by the way.

They've got three more months to work on it. And I personally saw a huge improvement between 8.04 and 8.10, especially in terms of hardware support. What happened to the fast boot times you were so excited about?


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18 Jan 2009, 10:35 pm

just create a small [10gb] ext1 partition for linux.



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19 Jan 2009, 4:06 am

gamefreak wrote:
just create a small [10gb] ext1 partition for linux.


I hope he means ext3!


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19 Jan 2009, 6:50 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
I was starting to get pissed at msft for that too, with ME, XP, and Vista (the versions of 95, 98, and 2000 were acceptable because it was the year they were released), but returning to the version number is something I give them high praise for (if the only thing on this new release I so praise), since it makes it far easier to organize in my head if they use numbers instead of random animal names...


You do know, Windows 95 was released in 1994, Windows 98, in 97 (They wanted to call it Windows 97) and Windows 2000 was released in 1999. Usually releasing software like this by the end of the years they give it NEXT year's name instead. In December 2008 you can buy the Guinness book of world records 2009. Confusing really cos it should be of 2008 as no one has set any records for 2009 by that time



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19 Jan 2009, 8:32 am

FAT works well with thumb drives, and embedded storage of that nature.



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20 Jan 2009, 7:57 am

lau wrote:
It is possible to mount ext2 (and ext3, I believe) filesystems under XP.


ext3 is basically ext2 with a journalling extension. An ext3-filesystem, properly unmounted (sync and umount), will be handled by the ext2-drivers for Win like an ext2-filesystem. There could be only some trouble, if the journal was still open, when the disk has been physically switched off or otherwise removed.