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16 Apr 2009, 5:08 pm

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Each letter in Times Roman is the most basic that letter can be, and therefore the easiest to read.


That is just not true. Compare both typefaces:

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The upper lines are Time New Roman and the lower lines are a so-called Venetian (a revival of the Italian typefaces of the late 15th century). Both share the basic pattern of an Antiqua, but the lower one (even created 450 years prior Times New Roman) is easier to read and much more elegant. The tiny irregularities and asymmetries (especially of the serifs) of the Venetian typeface helps the brain to recognize different letters faster than the strict and darker typeface of the Times New Roman.



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18 Apr 2009, 11:59 pm

You know, have any books been published in such a Venetian font? I believe I have seen a few.



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19 Apr 2009, 2:34 am

When I formatted my POD novel, I ran test print-outs on a variety of fonts, and finally picked Sylfaen.
I wanted a serif font because editors have told me they are easier to read - the serifs keep the eye moving
along the same line. Sylfaen has the advantage of having more openess in the interior of the letters (especially
vowels) than did the other serif fonts I tried. It stayed clearer when reduced to 10.5 point. I ended up going
back up to 11 point. Of course, it looks pretty bad on screen, but I'm happy with the way it looks on the printed
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19 Apr 2009, 6:16 am

Vashna wrote:
You know, have any books been published in such a Venetian font? I believe I have seen a few.


Yes some. Mostly works which want to appear very seriously or on which the publisher wants to show a special care regarding the print. I use it for longer text of non-technical nature.

BTW: It was in 16th and 17th century quite popular in Italy and Germany.



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19 Apr 2009, 7:07 am

Is that venetian available as a free or open license font? I really like it and would love a copy. I am writing a programming book and it would be great to use that.


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21 Apr 2009, 5:45 am

Part of my book will have example code. Can someone recommend an attractive font for code on paper?


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Part of my book will have example code. Can someone recommend an attractive font for code on paper?


It is less an "attractive" font, a quite ugly one, but a common one for code: Courier.



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21 Apr 2009, 1:24 pm

Why do they use such a... not attractive font for code?


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21 Apr 2009, 2:09 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Why do they use such a... not attractive font for code?


Historical reasons: The first printers used the same interfaces like telegram-printer (a technology ready and available). They used typewriter-like typefaces and so computer printouts remained in this typeface. Also the most pure text editors use single space typeface, e.g. Courier, to order code better.

So it is still common to mark code by using such typefaces in texts.



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I don't like Times roman at all (visually that is, it displeases my eyes)
and will change any text to Arial if I can.

Me too, I have preferred Arial over Times New Roman, at least for me, I have found easier and simpler to read sans-serif fonts than serif fonts.


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22 Apr 2009, 1:11 am

Some editors insist that manuscripts be set in Courier. I think it's standard for screenplays.



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22 Apr 2009, 4:15 am

For text within an engineering context, you may use a typeface called DIN1451 - it is a standardized typeface for technical drawings (but also used for road signs), originally created for the German institutes for standards (DIN), but widely used.

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For text within an engineering context, you may use a typeface called DIN1451 - it is a standardized typeface for technical drawings (but also used for road signs), originally created for the German institutes for standards (DIN), but widely used.

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That looks much nicer than courier. Thanks.


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22 Apr 2009, 5:13 am

Dussel wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Part of my book will have example code. Can someone recommend an attractive font for code on paper?


It is less an "attractive" font, a quite ugly one, but a common one for code: Courier.


I would suggest the font I use for coding* on screen: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono.


* well, I write, chat, listen to music and play textmode games in BVSM, coding is only a small part of that...


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Dussel wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Part of my book will have example code. Can someone recommend an attractive font for code on paper?


It is less an "attractive" font, a quite ugly one, but a common one for code: Courier.


I would suggest the font I use for coding* on screen: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono.


* well, I write, chat, listen to music and play textmode games in BVSM, coding is only a small part of that...


I like that too, and its free.


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25 Apr 2009, 1:09 am

Aren't the bitstream fonts also free for commercial use?