What if we could transfer our conscious into a computer?

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auntblabby
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27 Jan 2013, 9:21 am

compared to the angel gabriel, nobody's body is any work of art.



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27 Jan 2013, 9:34 am

auntblabby wrote:
compared to the angel gabriel, nobody's body is any work of art.


Unless we expand our definition of art? Then everyone's body is a work of art. (I'd be a magificent Rubens :D )
And being an artist myself, that's how I see it anyway. I despise the way people are so hung up on appearances these days. It totally destroys people's confidence for such a shallow, stupid reason.
The world would SUCK if we all looked like Brad and Angelina.



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27 Jan 2013, 9:45 am

you might be interested in what the actor leonard nimoy has been doing, artistically photographing plus-sized women for his latest book, "The Full-Body Project."



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27 Jan 2013, 10:05 am

auntblabby wrote:
you might be interested in what the actor leonard nimoy has been doing, artistically photographing plus-sized women for his latest book, "The Full-Body Project."


Well now. I didn't Mr Spock was a photographer! On the one hand, it is important for people to quit ostracizing fat people. It really does not help. On the other hand, I think it a symptom of certain societal diseases. I don't think it is fair to blame people he way they are blamed. But am I morphing this thread into something that belongs elsewhere?



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27 Jan 2013, 10:28 am

if you morph it too far then somebody else may morph it back. or it could morph so far that it falls over the edge into the abyss of irrelevance and non-sequiturs.



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27 Jan 2013, 10:46 am

auntblabby wrote:
if you morph it too far then somebody else may morph it back. or it could morph so far that it falls over the edge into the abyss of irrelevance and non-sequiturs.




Well, that's all right then. I shall morph fearlessly and trust the various forces at play that keep things in equilibrium.

Fat locks up some toxic chemicals. And other toxic chemicals damage the various functions of the body, including thyroid function, and other hormones. I really think modern day living makes it more difficult to lose weight than it should be, in many different ways. Obesity is a symptom of a toxic society. I think the odds are stacked against fat people. And they are discriminated against. And this BS about 'shaming them' is disgraceful.

Nothing whatsoever to do with computers and intelligence 8)



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27 Jan 2013, 11:36 am

sticking to the computer schtick, if you insert improper media [like melba toast] into a floppy drive you won't succeed in programming anything but dysfunction into a puter. [at least the older kind with floppy drives, showing my age here :oops: ] a tiny bit more forgivingly, if you insert improper food media into a human's floppy drive, it will continue to function more or less as it was designed but over time errors will develop [metabolic syndrome, obesity, diabetes, arthritis, cancer, et al]. shaming does no good of course. for most people. but it did work for me, for one day when i reported for my hospital job, i couldn't get into my operating room scrubs because i couldn't undo the waist clasp of my pants because my expanding belly literally pressure-welded it together, requiring that my boss take a pair of pliars and in front of god and the waiting room teeming with patients, pried my pants off of me. :oops: this shamed me into losing the weight and mostly keeping it off. but aside from me, most people have other things that persuade them to shed the poundage, including [but not limited to]:

*fashion requirements [gotta fit into those tres cher slim pants i stupidly bought]
*health issues- heart attack, cancer, diabetes, arthritis- all are good persuaders
*sudden poverty and lack of access to food
*sudden attack of overwhelming vanity [caused by passing in front of a gymnasium full-body mirror in profile]
*somebody else close to one, who suffered or died from obesity [my late father, for example].

it should be mentioned, that the hard part is NOT losing weight, but KEEPING IT OFF! i've lost weight several times in my life, from 20# to over 50# [that took me 6 months of hard-working my @$$ off!], so i know that losing it isn't that hard, but because the weight always came back over time, i found that keeping it off was a sisyphean struggle that i deal with presently, day by day. i found that carbs were my "frenemy" in that they made my tongue feel good but they made my body fat. ditching the carbs ["anything white and starchy"] was the first thing that i did right in terms of keeping the weight off. ditching saturated fats [largely from animal products] came later when my cholesterol zoomed past 300. sticking to a daily [rain or shine] exercise plan became easier when i saw that keeping the weight off became loads easier.

back to the original thread- the benefit of digitizing oneself, is that all these issues disappear in the digital domain. Image



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27 Jan 2013, 12:13 pm

auntblabby wrote:
back to the original thread- the benefit of digitizing oneself, is that all these issues disappear in the digital domain. Image


Wow! Nicely done, with the getting back on topic :salut:

It's not that motivation isn't exceedingly important. It's that if the wheel was properly greased, it wouldn't need to be pushed so hard.



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27 Jan 2013, 12:20 pm

some of us were just born with insufficient grease, so we have to work that much harder to make up for it. :hmph: sorta like how windows 7 tries so hard to be a decent operating system, tries too hard in fact. i wouldn't digitize myself in any bill gates' OS, it would have to be some supercharged descendent of UNIX.



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27 Jan 2013, 10:18 pm

auntblabby wrote:
some of us were just born with insufficient grease, so we have to work that much harder to make up for it. .




True. Which is why there were always fat people. But the numbers today are not due to genetics alone.
There are people who make money, and people who decide what is 'acceptable risks' and other people who just follow the crowd and basically believe what they are told.
Then you have preservatives, sugar, artificial additives, cheap fats, pollution, outgassing of paints, plastics etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
And you have invasive, pervasive, in your face advertising that never ends. You have media that chips away at peoples confidence in themselves by telling you 'what everyone else is doing' and providing so much conflicting information to confuse.

How many times have you bought something because that is the one you always buy? There might be many new alternatives available, but it just too much of a headache to assess them properly, so we don't notice it, or if the advertising is really good, we will try it. Nothing to do with the quality of the products. Doing research, if you do it, consists of reading the label properly.
It's overwhelming.

Oh crap, now I have to admit I only recently found out I was an aspie, so I can't be sure the stuff I outlined in the previous paragraph applies to anyone else but me.
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27 Jan 2013, 10:41 pm

well then, welcome to our cool 8) aspie club, glad to have you with us :) us aspie types should stick together :bounce: strength in numbers and all that :salut:



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28 Jan 2013, 12:48 pm

If my mind was stored onto a computer, there is a chance I could go mad and flood the entire building with neurotoxin until they install a morality personality core to stop me from flooding the entire building with neurotoxin.


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28 Jan 2013, 4:55 pm

A good sci-fi book on this is Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan - in the book your memeories can be downloaded into a computerized "stack" and re-implanted into another body - in fact it even makes interstellar "travel" possible since the contents of a stack can be transmitted over long distances.



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28 Jan 2013, 9:13 pm

ScrewyWabbit wrote:
A good sci-fi book on this is Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan - in the book your memeories can be downloaded into a computerized "stack" and re-implanted into another body - in fact it even makes interstellar "travel" possible since the contents of a stack can be transmitted over long distances.


The transmission would still be limited to speeds less then or equal to the speed of light.

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29 Jan 2013, 6:26 am

ruveyn wrote:
ScrewyWabbit wrote:
A good sci-fi book on this is Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan - in the book your memeories can be downloaded into a computerized "stack" and re-implanted into another body - in fact it even makes interstellar "travel" possible since the contents of a stack can be transmitted over long distances.


The transmission would still be limited to speeds less then or equal to the speed of light.

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Never heard of any of that, but what a terrific idea!
Transmit or send stuff into space, have it transmit stuff back, collect it, then download it into people's minds so they can feel like they've been to space themselves!! You could sell the same virtual space experience to many people.

We can visit another planet after all!!

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29 Jan 2013, 6:28 am

that reminds me of "brainstorm."