I HATE WINDOWS 7!! !! !! !

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whatever i'll say this, if you think the mac's os is that secure, how about to hook it up to the net and a server, disable all security programs, antivirus etc...
if the os is as safe as you claim you'll be fine.

i know if i did that on my WINDOWS pc it would be dead within days.

i doubt it would last a week.

nothing ever built is perfect and free from harm. but if mac is as good as you say then do what i wrote and prove to me that it can't be affected.

and i don't know how pc got strung together with microsoft because pc is a personal computer, it's a generic term for a computer you own.

also trojans are often impossible to detect you don't know you have one till you are screwed by it, my compaq had one for a week and i had no idea, it had no effect on it that was clear and obvious, the pc just gradually slowed down which i saw as normal.

a trojan is a virus made to look harmless, half of them screw you over before you know it. but trojans don't worry me as much as backdoors and worms. a worm virus can destroy a computer in less then a day, i've gotten away with installing trojans but the other two worry me.

Windows 7 is all right, it's given me the least amount of problems. But I can't help feeling that this was supposed to be Vista when it was finished and Vista was a buggy beta.

I have no anti-virus software. I don't need it. I've never had it. And my Mac has been working fine for years.

I have a firewall in case there's any outside intrusion into my Mac, though targeted attacks like that require skill and are rare. However, as I noted already, targeted hacks are a different ballgame altogether no matter what system you're running.

Only an idiot would get a trojan because they trick you into thinking they're something else, so YOU have to install them. Any system can get trojans because they exploit stupidity of the user, not the system itself.

Nothing is free from harm, let me say that now. It is possible to perform a direct hack on ANY system if you are smart enough. But only very few people possess that level of skill, and they're the ones making money by either hacking big businesses or legally auditing systems and starting careers as security experts. But, again, that's totally different from a virus and a very rare occurrence anyway.

and you know i am right, that once your firewall goes down your machine is history, and someone already said the net itself in unix and there are a ton of viruses on it and it has been exploited and hacked to death.

same thing you claim is on the mac, if that's the case millions of people know how to get past it because the net uses the same interface. no antivirus, that is foolish plain and simple, there are more harmful things on the internet then there are people on the planet. i wouldn't take a gamble like that.

and i said trojans are cleverly disguised, and they can be laced into another program or file. i trojan is a disguised virus, it's not always a program of any kind. and i will recap i downloaded delf in a video file without knowing it.

and that's only the hackers that are known, i guarantee they are not the only ones. and you said it yourself NOTHING is free from harm not even a mac.

but no one is going to bother to hack one person because it would be easy to track them down, if they hack one computer in a huge business it is much harder to trace.

but obviously your content to ignore the facts so i'm going to say i'm right and drop it.

To be honest, unless I happen to make a hacker angry, I doubt that even turning off my firewall would do anything, especially since all routers have one built in anyway. I just keep this stuff on for peace of mind. I mean you never really know.

I am, however, really rather confident that a UNIX foundation is a very secure basis for my computer system, especially if you compare it to any given version of Windows. Nothing in the real world is 100% secure, but a UNIX system comes a damn lot closer than a Windows one, that's for certain.

our router has a firewall as well as my pc i still get viruses, half the time i run a scan and am suprised to have several.

and once again there are not enough mac owners in the world to justify taking the time and effort to hack them, that's the only reason it is secure. if anything mac owners should be grateful microsoft exists, because windows takes the brunt and mac doesn't. like windows is the tank in an rpg and mac is the archer. the tank is the one doing all the work the other gets a free ride.

Right Folks.

Heres where you should draw the line - And I got this from someone that works in the industry

Windows - EASIEST thing to write a virus for, Thats why there are so many
Linux - Has had viri in the past - However there is no logical reason to attack it as it is open source
Mac - HARDEST to write a virus for - There are some out there, But not many.

Does that settle you two?

that's because windows has existed longest.

when bill gates made windows the idea was simply to make a simple interface so more people could use computers because dos isn't exactly easy to understand or user friendly.

so basicly windows is the original and first computer interface that was successful, it's easiest to learn because it has been around for long enough to figure it out, and was based on the idea of simplicity.

and every other os only exists because windows came first, microsoft paved the way for companies to improve the home pc from then on, and it is bs that i go all over the internet and see mac users b***h and whine when their os exists simply because microsoft allows it. it gets all the flack all the trouble all the bitching, and the other ones get a free ride.

and i'm sick and tired of the bs.

because microsoft is a big enough company to snuff mac into a ditch, through court systems alone. why can't the other oses take some of the flack now and then maybe there would be less bitching.

needed to get that out.

but yeah windows gets this windows gets that, well if you can do better make an effort. windows didn't get where it is now because of laziness.

and it wouldn't bother me so much of the mac users weren't all "holier then thou" every five seconds, mac is not perfect it just doesn't have the popularity windows has and everyone damn knows it. if the roles were reversed mac would get all the hell that gets whopped on microsoft's head every damn day. and the fact that more people buy windows is proof they are doing something right.

putting up the flame shield now.

Bill Gates didn't make Windows. He bought it off someone else then resold it to IBM at a massive premium, basically. He then bodged other stuff on in a really rather sloppy manner, which is why Windows is a POS. And that's why Windows got so big - because of chance. Old Bill made a good business deal on a crappy OS, so he got it onto IBM's computers and it took off because there was no alternative offered to IBM at the time.

Windows did not "come first", however. Do some research and you'll see that the first ever commercially successful personal computer was the Apple II.

Yes, on a Windows computer you'll get viruses all the time, I'm not disputing that. But on a UNIX system, that isn't true. Honestly mate, install Ubuntu on your computer then do a virus scan after a month and tell me what comes up. The answer will be nothing.

And as for "microsoft is a big enough company to snuff mac into a ditch" (whatever the hell that's meant to mean, since "Mac" isn't even a company), Apple is actually more profitable than Microsoft now, BTW: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/04/ ... -earnings/ ...And they have more cash than the US Government, too. Not a force to be reckoned with.

You honestly have no idea what you're talking about, but thanks for providing a good laugh on Christmas. This bit made me laugh especially hard: "if anything mac owners should be grateful microsoft exists"

You seem to be struggling with a basic concept of malware - do you not understand that it needs to be written for a specific target? The only way your assertion could be true would be for there to be an appreciable malware count for Macs and Linux - yet there is not and never has been. Or do you actually believe that Windows-related malware is really "computer viruses"?
Yet here we all are, riding happily on the back of Unix and Unix-like systems. I'd be interested to read about the tons of viruses "on" Unix and how it has been hacked to death - care to provide some links?

And your views on Windows, Gates and Microsoft generally?
Hmm. I think you need to do some very basic research. Something not involving the Gates PR machinery.

Nope.




I don't really think I need to say anything more, but so far as security is concerned, Unix didn't entirely invent it in 1969. Microsoft (1975) still haven't worked out what it means.

To be fair, Windows fanboys in general are really bitter from what I've seen. I even went on a Windows forum and happened to mention that I preferred 7 to Vista, and that's all it took for the rabid fanboys to start flaming me. They then took the fact I modified one XML file (the one which displays the hardware score rubbish) and said it's why I had problems with Vista.

Delusional much?

Ah true, but they get to practice the spelling of it with each new shiny Windows release.

Comes with the territory. It's an OS requirement.

Understandable, I guess

Yeah, poor things. It's all they have, bless 'em.