I HATE WINDOWS 7!! !! !! !

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Proof of concepts are not the same as in-the-wild viruses.

Also, that would count as a trojan even if it was in the wild, as the user must install it.

Yeah, poor things. It's all they have, bless 'em.

I may be confused with your terminology. I thought when you keep saying "virus" you meant malware just like 99% of people. Viruses are a non-threat to the majority these days. Trojans, DBD's and social engineering are much more profitable today. The point wasn't that it was a proof of concept but as Miller has said many times, if he can do it so can others. His "concept" got through to the store. That made it in-the-wild. He just chose not to do anything malicious with it (not ending up in court is a good thing). But as he said it was a fine line to do it, but his contract didn't allow him to do the things he did even when they were helping Apple "behind the scenes" anyway. If I was running a company like that I'd turn it round and say something like: "see, we are honest with our customers and we will publicly announce any security risks with our OS and would appreciate any feedback". Oh wait, that sounds like an open source methodology. I stabbed myself. Lol.

"if it becomes more popular" that is the reason it has no viruses, windows gets hacked and infected all the time, because hackers know a business is more likely to have windows.


it's like anything if something gets to popular it gets the good and the bad, like ff7 is extremely popular and it has hate and fame and is more talked about then nearly every other final fantasy, youtube is one of the most popular web pages ever made and it has attracted all kinds. windows was probably hard to hack at first but now windows is so widely used that it was only a matter of time before the bad stuff came.

besides i don't want to have to learn a totally new os, windows is familiar, the most supported, and most popular. it's not the best in the world but with anything else you can hardly get games or software because they are not supported.

i know i'm sticking by microsoft till my dying day, except then it comes to the xbox.

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Brazil uses PC Conectado, a program utilizing Linux.
City of Munich has chosen 2003 to migrate its 14,000 desktops to Debian-based LiMux.[7] Even though more than 80% of workstations used OpenOffice and 100% used Firefox/Thunderbird five years later (November 2008),[8] an adoption rate of Linux itself of only 20.0% (June 2010) was achieved.[9][10]
The United States Department of Defense uses Linux - "the U.S. Army is “the” single largest install base for Red Hat Linux"[11] and the US Navy nuclear submarine fleet runs on Linux.[12]
The city of Vienna has chosen to start migrating its desktop PCs to Debian-based Wienux.[13] However, the idea was largely abandoned, because the necessary software was incompatible with Linux.[14]
Spain was noted as the furthest along the road to Linux adoption in 2003.,[15] for example with Linux distribution LinEx
State owned Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) is installing Linux in all of its 20,000 retail branches as the basis for its web server and a new terminal platform. (2005) [16]
In April 2006, the US Federal Aviation Administration announced that it had completed a migration to Red Hat Enterprise Linux in one third of the scheduled time and saved 15 million dollars.[17][dead link]
The Government of Pakistan established a Technology Resource Mobilization Unit in 2002 to enable groups of professionals to exchange views and coordinate activities in their sectors and to educate users about free software alternatives. Linux is an option for poor countries which have little revenue for public investment; Pakistan is using open source software in public schools and colleges, and hopes to run all government services on Linux eventually.
The French Parliament has switched to using Ubuntu on desktop PCs.[18][19]
The Federal Employment Office of Germany (Bundesagentur für Arbeit) has migrated 13,000 public workstations from Windows NT to OpenSuse.[20]
Czech Post migrated 4000 servers and 12,000 clients to Novell Linux in 2005[21][22]
Cuba - Students from the Cuban University of Information Science launched its own distribution of Linux called Nova to promote the replace of Microsoft Windows on civilian and government computers, a project that is now supported by the Cuban Government. By early 2011 the Universidad de Ciencias Informáticas announced that they would migrate more than 8000 PCs to this new operating system.[23][24][25]
The Canton of Solothurn in Switzerland decided 2001 to migrate its computers to Linux, but in 2010 the Swiss authority has made a U-turn by deciding to use Windows 7 for desktop clients.[26]
France's national police force, the National Gendarmerie started moving their 90,000 desktops from Windows XP to Ubuntu in 2007 over concerns about the additional training costs of moving to Windows Vista, and following the success of OpenOffice.org roll-outs. The migration should be completed by 2015. The force has saved about €50 million on software licensing between 2004 and 2008.[27][28][29]
France's Ministry of Agriculture uses Mandriva Linux.[29]
Macedonia's Ministry of Education and Science deployed more than 180,000 Ubuntu based classroom desktops, and has encouraged every student in the Republic of Macedonia to use Ubuntu computer workstations.[30]
The People's Republic of China exclusively uses Linux as the operating system for its Loongson processor family, with the aim of technology independence.[31]
The US National Nuclear Security Administration operates the world's tenth fastest supercomputer, the IBM Roadrunner, which uses Red Hat Enterprise Linux along with Fedora as its operating systems.[32]
The regional Andalusian Autonomous Government of Andalucía in Spain developed its own Linux distribution, called Guadalinex in 2004.[33]
The South African Social Security Agency (SASSA) deployed Multi-station Linux Desktops to address budget and infrastructure constraints in 50 rural sites.[34]
In 2003, the Turkish government decided to create its own Linux distribution, Pardus, developed by UEKAE (National Research Institute of Electronics and Cryptology). The first version, Pardus 1.0, was officially announced in 27 December 2005.[35]
In 2010 The Philippines fielded an Ubuntu-powered national voting system.[36]
In July 2010 Malaysia had switched 703 of the state's 724 agencies to Free and Open Source software with a Linux based operating system used.[37] The Chief Secretary to the Government cited, "(the) general acceptance of its promise of better quality, higher reliability, more flexibility and lower cost".[38]
In late 2010 Vladimir Putin signed a plan to move the Russian Federation government towards free software including Linux in the second quarter of 2012.[39][40]
The city government of Largo, Florida, USA uses Linux and has won international recognition for their implementation, indicating that it provides "extensive savings over more traditional alternatives in city-wide applications."[41]

Jetfox, I think you need to spend some time working with a real operating system in the real world.
Seriously, there are so many holes in your arguments I have no idea where to start - so I won't.