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29 May 2009, 10:13 am

If I understand it correctly, people who moderate sites can see not only the location of the visitors through their IP number, but also which site they were on previously. I think this sucks and I always use google as a middle-station between switching sites so it will show "logged on from google".

I once tried a free proxy service but it was slow and inconvenient. Is a proxy you pay for good and will it generate a random IP everytime you use it? I don't want to pay for a proxy just to have a permanent, mediocre connection from Turkey which makes people who trace me see my location at a certain spot in Turkey all the time.

I would really appreciate this because I hate being traced. Not that I'm paranoid but I'm a shopaholic and can generally visit some shopping sites 10-20 times a day just for repetitive AS relaxation, browsing through the products and dreaming about my next purchase. I don't want the moderators, because I know especially shopping sites keep detailed track of things like this, to see my obvious aspie behaviour, because to NT's it's considered "pathetic" to be that repetitive and even if they still give me gold memberships and sometimes personally signed cards and are happy with me as a customer and even though I will never meet any of these people face to face, I want to keep my integrity as much as possible.

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29 May 2009, 10:40 am

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If I understand it correctly, people who moderate sites can see not only the location of the visitors through their IP number, but also which site they were on previously. I think this sucks and I always use google as a middle-station between switching sites so it will show "logged on from google".

I once tried a free proxy service but it was slow and inconvenient. Is a proxy you pay for good and will it generate a random IP everytime you use it? I don't want to pay for a proxy just to have a permanent, mediocre connection from Turkey which makes people who trace me see my location at a certain spot in Turkey all the time.

I would really appreciate this because I hate being traced. Not that I'm paranoid but I'm a shopaholic and can generally visit some shopping sites 10-20 times a day just for repetitive AS relaxation, browsing through the products and dreaming about my next purchase. I don't want the moderators, because I know especially shopping sites keep detailed track of things like this, to see my obvious aspie behaviour, because to NT's it's considered "pathetic" to be that repetitive and even if they still give me gold memberships and sometimes personally signed cards and are happy with me as a customer and even though I will never meet any of these people face to face, I want to keep my integrity as much as possible.

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we can only see your email address and your IP address/IP provider. We can't trace where you were before or after WP.


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29 May 2009, 11:07 am

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we can only see your email address and your IP address/IP provider. We can't trace where you were before or after WP.


I visited this blog which had some imbedded thing keeping track of all the visitors, it showed my home town and also what page I was viewing before I logged on there. I don't know much about computers or IT but seeing there is actually a way to trace my movements like that was kind alarming. At least I'm glad WP doesn't have such a function.



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29 May 2009, 12:45 pm

That's probobly working by referers, they only work if you click a link rather than use a bookmark, the firefox extension RefControl will allow you to block that, give it a test on the site you mentioned.

For proxys the best in the business is a combination of Tor and Privoxy both software you install and easy to get working together, its is slow beyond belief however. Really though your primary defence is that no one really cares what your up to.



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29 May 2009, 12:57 pm

Zoonic wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
we can only see your email address and your IP address/IP provider. We can't trace where you were before or after WP.


I visited this blog which had some imbedded thing keeping track of all the visitors, it showed my home town and also what page I was viewing before I logged on there. I don't know much about computers or IT but seeing there is actually a way to trace my movements like that was kind alarming. At least I'm glad WP doesn't have such a function.


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29 May 2009, 5:48 pm

I've seen places (no names..;) that will address you by 'we have [whatever] in [the town you're from, or close to it] as soon as you visit the site.

Some spam and malware places tracking cookies on your system; those are the ones that want to know where you've been and where you're going. Something like Ad-aware should take care of most of that.



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29 May 2009, 6:45 pm

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I've seen places (no names..;) that will address you by 'we have [whatever] in [the town you're from, or close to it] as soon as you visit the site.

Some spam and malware places tracking cookies on your system; those are the ones that want to know where you've been and where you're going. Something like Ad-aware should take care of most of that.


I used AVG AntiVirus Free Product and after 4 months, bought the home version and now use that. I have had no issues with privacy or malware or ad-ware or any other beasties that lurk unprotected on the internet.


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29 May 2009, 7:25 pm

I use ad-aware regularly, well maybe sometimes I forget to use it for a month or two but I do have it.



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29 May 2009, 8:29 pm

I use linux and have firefox cache all cookies and what not in a ram drive. When I restart my computer, it all goes away. As well, I use several firefox plug ins that reduce bothersome behavior.


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29 May 2009, 10:31 pm

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I use linux and have firefox cache all cookies and what not in a ram drive. When I restart my computer, it all goes away. As well, I use several firefox plug ins that reduce bothersome behavior.

The BetterPrivacy add-on deletes the tracking cookies.


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30 May 2009, 5:57 pm

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I use linux and have firefox cache all cookies and what not in a ram drive. When I restart my computer, it all goes away.


Both Opera and Firefox has an option to delete all cookies after the browser is closed.



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30 May 2009, 7:08 pm

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I use linux and have firefox cache all cookies and what not in a ram drive. When I restart my computer, it all goes away.


Both Opera and Firefox has an option to delete all cookies after the browser is closed.


I dont have to wait. And if a file somehow is locked, forbidden, or whatever, tough. It goes bye-bye when the power goes off.

Likewise, things like youtube videos load in and dont have to spin the hard drive platter at all. Youtube generally only allows one video to cache at a time, so I am saving a write to the boot sector when it erases. Spares on fragmentation too.


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30 May 2009, 7:23 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
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Fuzzy wrote:
I use linux and have firefox cache all cookies and what not in a ram drive. When I restart my computer, it all goes away.


Both Opera and Firefox has an option to delete all cookies after the browser is closed.


I dont have to wait. And if a file somehow is locked, forbidden, or whatever, tough. It goes bye-bye when the power goes off.

Likewise, things like youtube videos load in and dont have to spin the hard drive platter at all. Youtube generally only allows one video to cache at a time, so I am saving a write to the boot sector when it erases. Spares on fragmentation too.


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31 May 2009, 9:23 pm

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I dont have to wait. And if a file somehow is locked, forbidden, or whatever, tough. It goes bye-bye when the power goes off.

Likewise, things like youtube videos load in and dont have to spin the hard drive platter at all. Youtube generally only allows one video to cache at a time, so I am saving a write to the boot sector when it erases. Spares on fragmentation too.


Mostly agree. Only that it's hard to find an optimal size for ram disk. Whatever the amount of memory set aside isn't available for other applications. Some (actually quite a lot) of programs could make use of that memory more efficiently. You also lose whatever theoretical bebefit a browser's disk cache has. (Namely not having to download everything from a web site you visited before)

Surfing is entirely bandwidth bond, so saving a few disk access wouldn't matter much. Frankly I won't bother with ram drive unless the hd is SSD. And fragmentation aren't that problematic until the hd is filled to a certain level anyway. (Now that you mention it, I'm sorry to detract a bit. I've been looking for some time now, is there any decent defrag program for linux?)

And I just realized that the thread started out as a privacy question, in that case, using a ram drive could reduce the chance of someone discovering your hidden secret.



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31 May 2009, 11:47 pm

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Mostly agree. Only that it's hard to find an optimal size for ram disk. Whatever the amount of memory set aside isn't available for other applications. Some (actually quite a lot) of programs could make use of that memory more efficiently. You also lose whatever theoretical bebefit a browser's disk cache has. (Namely not having to download everything from a web site you visited before)


How little memory do you think I have? :) My ram disk automatically resizes, with a maximum of 1 gig. Firefox never uses that much. The ram disk is available to other things too, if I choose.

Currently my software is consuming 417 megs or 10.8 percent of my ram. I'm hard pressed to get it over 1.5, let alone touching all four gigs. I'm saturating about 15% split between two CPUs. I have lots and lots of computer to spare.

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Surfing is entirely bandwidth bond, so saving a few disk access wouldn't matter much. Frankly I won't bother with ram drive unless the hd is SSD. And fragmentation aren't that problematic until the hd is filled to a certain level anyway. (Now that you mention it, I'm sorry to detract a bit. I've been looking for some time now, is there any decent defrag program for linux?)


I believe when it does its integrity check it marks things to be sorted on the fly. Assuming you use ext3 or ext4. Defrag is not much of an issue anyway with journalling.

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And I just realized that the thread started out as a privacy question, in that case, using a ram drive could reduce the chance of someone discovering your hidden secret.[/quote]

Yeah, we are keeping to topic. Barely.


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01 Jun 2009, 12:31 pm

Using RefControl on Firefox will ensure that no referrals of websites you've been on are sent to anyone.


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