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14 Oct 2009, 5:30 pm

The Future of Wi-Fi is Routerless

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Routers are the middle-men of our wireless networks; without them, our Wi-Fi gadgets (laptops, hard drives, cameras, printers, whathaveyou) can't talk to each other. But routers, like most intermediaries, don't make anything easier -- not at all. A new Wi-Fi standard is on the horizon that will let our devices talk to each other directly. Ain't that sweet?

The new specification, which the Wi-Fi Alliance hopes will start showing up in devices in mid 2010, is called Wi-Fi Direct. But that's not all, a new Wi-Fi Direct device will be backwards compatible with any previously released Wi-Fi Certified gadget you have.....


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14 Oct 2009, 5:34 pm

That's good for making two devices talk to each other, but what about going onto the internet?



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14 Oct 2009, 6:20 pm

How is this new? You mean they have improved it.



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14 Oct 2009, 6:55 pm

I can connect 2 computers to each other AND connect to the internet .... I use a router as I want to enable both computers the ability to use the connection to the internet and not rely on the stability of the other



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14 Oct 2009, 10:12 pm

It may reduce the need for local routers, but trust me, once it goes to cables, routers are involved...as well as switches, hubs, sometimes even repeaters...;)


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14 Oct 2009, 11:09 pm

It's called Ad-Hoc networks, and they've existed for some 15 years now...this is absolutely nothing new.


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16 Oct 2009, 11:04 pm

You still need a router if you want to directly connect to the internet.



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17 Oct 2009, 7:42 am

Jkid wrote:
You still need a router if you want to directly connect to the internet.

There seems to be a tendency, these days, for people to use the term "router", when they really mean "modem".

I connected perfectly happily to the internet for years, with a USB modem. I didn't have a router.

I also had a second machine, happily also using the internet, via a crossover Ethernet cable to the machine with the USB modem.

I also toyed around with using the parallel and serial ports, to link another couple of machines in, at the same time.

(... and yes, by this point, the desktop with the USB modem is acting as a router.)

Of course, all that was while I also had a second connection to the internet, via my mobile phone.

PS. I really must get around to sorting myself out a 3G dongle, so my netbook can go mobile.


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17 Oct 2009, 8:12 am

Jkid wrote:
You still need a router if you want to directly connect to the internet.


I think so, too. Besides, isn't security going to be a problem if routers (and possibly other intermediaty devices) get removed? Of course eveyr wise computer user secures their computer, but some people don't have firewalls etc. on each individual computer because they connect to the internet through a router or switch.



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17 Oct 2009, 4:55 pm

I've seen fun demonstrations of "bluetooth guns" with high-gain, highly directional antennae coupled together and connected to a laptop running certain .. eh.. nameless applications.. that make such things very fun. Right now, I use DD-WRT exclusively for wireless SMB/home installations, and for larger businesses, it's Cisco lightweight AP's using WDS and all that mess. It feels good to be back again. :)



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25 Jan 2010, 7:38 pm

With out a router you would have to leave one device running and in the same place all the time.


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26 Jan 2010, 7:45 am

greengeek wrote:
With out a router you would have to leave one device running and in the same place all the time.

No and no.

If you meant to say "modem" - also no and no.


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26 Jan 2010, 9:43 am

How can anyone mix modem with router? That's like calling RAM a memory stick



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26 Jan 2010, 9:47 am

I don't know if I'd want a true "routerless" wireless.

The router can serve as an effective physical firewall for your local network. Wanna bet those devices that could operate sans router don't include that feature?



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26 Jan 2010, 9:47 am

A modem and a router are different things. A router can have a modem built-in but that does not make a modem a router. Modems usually have one input with a Ethernet and maybe a USB output too.


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26 Jan 2010, 9:51 am

there are always going to be many routers involved when you want to connect to any given website.