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30 Apr 2010, 5:08 am

currently downloading (running Hardy currently). Has anyone here used it yet? What do I have in store?



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30 Apr 2010, 7:17 am

I've only just got Karmic to the point where I'm comfortable with it, and there seem to be a fair few bug reports on lucid floating around. I'm not going to change for a while, and when I do I'll be setting up /home on its own drive.

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30 Apr 2010, 7:43 am

Sparx139 wrote:
currently downloading (running Hardy currently). Has anyone here used it yet? What do I have in store?


Its nice.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/10-t ... buntu.html


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30 Apr 2010, 8:27 am

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I've only just got Karmic to the point where I'm comfortable with it


I upgraded my laptop from 8.04 to 9.10 (Karmic) because there were several packages that were not available in 8.04, but it introduced a horrible random freezing error.

I am now on 10.04, and the random freezing continues, but less often. I do have a very stable desktop machine for real work and all my files are on network attached storage, so the random freeze is a pain rather than a killer.

The first thing I did was change that gloomy Ambiance theme to Radiance, switch off the visual effects and switch the terminal colour preferences back to black on white.



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30 Apr 2010, 8:33 am

StuartN wrote:
peterd wrote:
I've only just got Karmic to the point where I'm comfortable with it


I upgraded my laptop from 8.04 to 9.10 (Karmic) because there were several packages that were not available in 8.04, but it introduced a horrible random freezing error.

I am now on 10.04, and the random freezing continues, but less often. I do have a very stable desktop machine for real work and all my files are on network attached storage, so the random freeze is a pain rather than a killer.

The first thing I did was change that gloomy Ambiance theme to Radiance, switch off the visual effects and switch the terminal colour preferences back to black on white.


I never upgrade. Fresh install every six months. I keep an application list and a separate /home. That slow slog of an upgrade with its reliance on a net connection cannot beat a fresh install. Of the 8 or so distributions I have gone through, its fastest and cleanest every time.

For example, 9.10 introduced grub 2. The upgrade path to 9.10 didnt replace that as far as I saw. (I try the upgrade path too, to see if its improving.)


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30 Apr 2010, 3:38 pm

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I never upgrade.


Yes, "upgrade" is my mental image of what I do, but it is a fresh install every time. It is definitely better to remove all the accumulated detritus.



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30 Apr 2010, 10:13 pm

They took chess out of the default install. Lame.

Aside from that, it looks pretty slick. Very well-polished. I'm sitting in the live environment now waiting for my hard drive to finish partitioning.


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30 Apr 2010, 11:53 pm

grrr...and I just downloaded 9.x Wednesday...sigh...;)


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02 May 2010, 3:53 am

Well, everything went well. My wifi is actually working without ndiswrapper this time (the proprietary driver is working properly), and it was the smoothest install I've ever done.



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02 May 2010, 5:14 am

Orwell wrote:
They took chess out of the default install. Lame.


if you need help with the software center... let me know. Mouse clicking can be tricky.


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02 May 2010, 11:46 am

You said you were upgrading from Hardy? That's a huge improvement. I remember the torture of ndiswrapper for wifi drivers. That was fixed in Intrepid, I think.

Fuzzy wrote:
Orwell wrote:
They took chess out of the default install. Lame.


if you need help with the software center... let me know. Mouse clicking can be tricky.

Oh, shut up. The old GNOME games suite used to include a simple little interface for playing casual games against gnuchess. Rest assured that I already have my serious chess set-up configured: eboard and xboard front-ends, scid for databases, 8 or so GM-strength engines (crafty, gnuchess, sjeng, toga II, fruit, phalanx, glaurung, stockfish). A lot of stuff got simplified down in this release. I had to go into Synaptic to find the extra Compiz plugins that were taken out of the default. Not a big deal, but it is strange to suddenly see all the configuration options so simplified.


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02 May 2010, 1:02 pm

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Well, everything went well. My wifi is actually working without ndiswrapper this time (the proprietary driver is working properly), and it was the smoothest install I've ever done.


THAT is a major improvement! I switched to Linux Mint and was very happy with it. I may upgrade to newer distro whe it is out of beta. I was pleased by Mint because they have ndiswrapper in a gui, is that is the correct way to put it. You don't have to code it yourself, and there were several wifi card drivers already installed.



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02 May 2010, 1:14 pm

I'm a bit queasy with Lucid right now. I'll stick with Karmic for a while.


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02 May 2010, 2:07 pm

Orwell wrote:
You said you were upgrading from Hardy? That's a huge improvement. I remember the torture of ndiswrapper for wifi drivers. That was fixed in Intrepid, I think.

Fuzzy wrote:
Orwell wrote:
They took chess out of the default install. Lame.


if you need help with the software center... let me know. Mouse clicking can be tricky.

Oh, shut up.


:D :D :D


Excellent. I knew the perfect mockery had arrived when you said it. You seemed pleased when you heard they removed gimp from the default apps; thats something *I* use all the time, so it was fun seeing you grumble. Friends exist to amuse each other, dont they?

I think I annoyed dent too this morning.I informed him of the existence of the Hutterites, a literalist sect that has had 400 years of success in communal society. Thats like his pipe dream all jumbled in his nightmares. Now he is researching them to see how real communists do it. I guess they use the bible.:P


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02 May 2010, 9:39 pm

I've been using it since Beta. Installed it permanently on a partitions instead of using Wubi. I think it's brilliant. It really is a great starter for people new to linux. I'm afraid it'll all go out the window when Maverick Meerkat comes out as it will have Gnome 3.0. Played around with that for a bit and not feelin' it. I'm trying to wrap my head around it. It almost feels like they are doing something different just for the sake of being different and feels forced. I'll give it a fair shake of course when it's finalized.


As for the Lynx, I love the Ubuntu One Music store. I love the whole social from the start even though i don't use gwibber. I'm glad they ditched the brown. Definitely mac inspired but nothing wrong with that at all.



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02 May 2010, 11:29 pm

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I'm afraid it'll all go out the window when Maverick Meerkat comes out as it will have Gnome 3.0. Played around with that for a bit and not feelin' it. I'm trying to wrap my head around it. It almost feels like they are doing something different just for the sake of being different and feels forced. I'll give it a fair shake of course when it's finalized.

I agree, and reading the GNOME developer discussions seem to support this: they believe that they have to do something "new" and "exciting," but I don't see a clear vision within GNOME for something new that doesn't suck.


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