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09 Oct 2010, 6:16 pm

I was studying for my neuroscience midterm in a week...(which I should be doing right now and not writing this post....i also have something really important to do for this Tuesday.....) …anyways I got to a chapter of my text that talks about how everything in the nervous system works at the cellular level. I came across something that explained that when a nerve cell is damaged in the peripheral nervous system (nerve cells outside brain and spinal cord) the stump of the crushed axon will grow new sprouts and then schwann cells (the support cells that form the myelin sheath around nerve cells of the PNS) will remove the old dead cell and then form cylinders that guide the re-growth of the new axon. The axon will re-grow quickly through the cylinders and will re-establish connections with the other cells with which it was previously connected and resume its original function. (This only happens when a nerve cell is damaged in certain ways and if the nerve cell is still located close to the cells with which was once connected). Still....this means that cells nerve cells outside the brain and spinal cord have some ability to regenerate after being damaged.

Why don't our brain cells do this? According to my (undergraduate level) textbook if axons of cells in the central nervous system (brain and spinal cord) are damaged they WILL form new sprouts but a class of support cells in the CNS (that provide cells with nutrients, remove bacteria and viruses from the cells and generally help brain cells)called astrocytes will leave scar tissue after removing the dead parts of the old cell and this scar tissue will form a barrier that the budding new cell cannot penetrate. More interestingly even if the astrocytes are prevented from forming scar tissue the astrocytes STILL stop the new cell from regenerating! The astrocytes send the new sprout of an axon a chemical message that it has reached it's final destination and should stop (and form it's terminal buttons) right at the beginning of it's journey.

So when nerve cells in the PNS are damaged (under certain circumstances) they will regenerate and their support cells will help them do so… but when neurons in the brain are damaged not only will their support cells not help them regenerate these so called support cells will actually prevent them from doing so! Why?????????? Can anyone think of a possible evolutionary explanation for this?



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09 Oct 2010, 10:18 pm

I have absolutely no idea but I have to tell you that I have always loved reading text like what you wrote. Really good plot at the cellular level! I'm serious - do you happen to know where I can find some books like that? Not all grown-up scientific, something that a mere 60yo can read. :)



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09 Oct 2010, 10:20 pm

Let me take a guess at why - because the brain can grow so big and no bigger?
If it gets over-crowded in the cranium, maybe that individual removes itself from the gene pool?



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10 Oct 2010, 12:35 am

Claradoon wrote:
I have absolutely no idea but I have to tell you that I have always loved reading text like what you wrote. Really good plot at the cellular level! I'm serious - do you happen to know where I can find some books like that? Not all grown-up scientific, something that a mere 60yo can read. :)



Thanks... (For the compliment on my description)

I don't know where you could get good non-text books on cell biology .....but "A Stroke Of Insight" and "The Brain that changed Itself" are good mainstream books about neuroscience in general.....they have technical material in them (you can learn from them) but they are written for the general public which means they have to be written in a way that is interesting in order to sell. I found these books very interesting...inspiring too bcs they talk about neuroplasticity in adulthood.....

Also you can check out this site http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/neurok.html
This is a "neuroscience for kids" website and some of the info on it is too basic and boring but it has soon really fun tests and demos ...it was one of the recommended links for my intro to psych class that I took ages ago.....I spend hours playing on it =)



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10 Oct 2010, 1:06 am

Claradoon wrote:
Let me take a guess at why - because the brain can grow so big and no bigger?

The one person I talked to about this in person (an educated women with a masters degree...albeit not in sciences) said the same thing. The thing is in the PNS (spinal nerves for example) regenerate when they are damaged under certain circumstances...and the support cells "help" them do so...but they only help the damaged cell grow back and re-form its connections.... this mechanism does NOT cause new cells to continually grow...or cause the damaged cell to continually grow after it has been regenerated (like a cancer). In fact once the damaged cell has regenerated and gets to the right place the support cell sends it a chemical signal telling it to stop. In the CNS( for example the brain ) the support cells give the signal to the regenerating cell that it has reached it destination and should stop growing .........but they give it to early......just when the cell is beginning to grow. It's like the support cells (astrocytes in this case) trick the damaged neuron into ceasing its efforts to re-establish itself and its link with other neurons!

If it gets over-crowded in the cranium, maybe that individual removes itself from the gene pool?


Like neural-Darwinism .........interesting idea! There is a mechanism kind of like that in the dev. of the brain.....too many neurons are formed in the beginning and they all try to form connections with other cells ( called post-synaptic cells). The extra neurons that come to late after too many other neurons have formed connections with the receiving post-synaptic cells are given signals (by the receiving cells that they tried to connect with) that cause them to die by programmed cell death ( called apoptosis)! Survival of the fittest neuron...

So maybe the brain thinks damaged cells are no longer needed.....and gives its resources to healthy cells or something......but it still doesn’t quite make sense to me....why did only the brain and spinal cord dev. this mechanism and not the rest of the nervous system? It seems like it would be SO adaptive to be able to regenerate damaged brain cells!