In the Beginning There Was IE, and It Was Good?

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19 Oct 2010, 9:23 am

I just happened across this interesting article:

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1996: Internet Explorer 3
This version of the browser, introduced in 1997, was the first browser to implement CSS (Cascading Style Sheets). Yes, you’re reading that correctly—in fact, it introduced many new features like Java applets and sadly, ActiveX controls.

1997: Internet Explorer 4
IE4 introduced a blazing fast (at the time) rendering engine as an embeddable component that could be used in other applications—this was a lot more important than people realize. This version also introduced Dynamic HTML, which allows web pages to dynamically change the page using JavaScript, and added Active Desktop integration.

Even more weird? Seems like nobody remembers this anymore, but IE4 was actually cross-platform—you could install it on Mac OS, Solaris, and HP-UX—and by the time IE5 was released, IE4 had reached a 60% market share.

1999: Internet Explorer 5.x
Microsoft invented Ajax. Wait… what? That’s right, it was this version of IE that introduced the XMLHttpRequest feature in JavaScript, which forms the underlying technology behind every web application you’re using today—you know, like Gmail. Of course, the term “Ajax” wasn’t actually coined until years later by somebody other than Microsoft, but this release supported everything required to make it work.

So Yes, Microsoft Innovated
From IE3 until IE6, Microsoft used all their resources to simply out-innovate the competition, releasing new features and better browsers faster than Netscape. In fact, Netscape 3 Gold was a buggy piece of junk that crashed all the time, and Netscape 4 was extremely slow and could barely render tables—much less CSS, which would often cause the browser to crash.

To put it in context: web developers used to complain about Netscape the same way they complain about IE6 now.

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Just because we’re geeks doesn’t mean we hate everything that’s inferior and outdated—in fact, we often love retro computing—that’s why we love Atari, NES, Commodore 64, etc. We take pride in our geek knowledge. So why’s Internet Explorer a different story?

Here’s a couple of reasons that fueled our hatred of the buggy browser, and finally put us all over the edge:

Supporting IE is Like a Fork in the Eye for Web

Here’s a sample of a day in the life of a web designer:

You spend hours making sure that your page looks great, and you test it out in Google Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and even Opera. It looks great, awesome!

Now you open up IE and the page looks like somebody put it into a blender and hit the Whip button. Then you spend double the amount of time trying to fix it to look tolerable in IE6 and IE7, cursing loudly the entire time.

Geeks Forced to Use Internet Explorer

And here’s where we come to the real issue—the whole reason that geeks can’t stand Internet Explorer:

Geeks everywhere were forced to use Internet Explorer at work even when there are better browsers, forced to support it for corporate applications, forced to make sure web sites still work in IE, and we couldn’t convince everybody to switch to a better browser.

Geeks don’t hate something that’s inferior—but they do hate it when it’s forced on them.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32372/ht ... -explorer/


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19 Oct 2010, 9:36 am

Conversely, if you make a page look good in IE, it should do well with other browsers. 8)



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21 Oct 2010, 11:42 am

Neat


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21 Oct 2010, 2:43 pm

Hmm, I remember those days. The mistake was made when they integrated the web browser into the rest of the operative system, paving the road to making Windows severely vulnerable to various security attacks. Although it's really bad that this has increased the number of victims of such attacks, I also find it nice as it lowers the reputation of Microsoft - a company that I hate. Maybe it eventually will cause Linux to take over.



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21 Oct 2010, 2:46 pm

Beauty_pact wrote:
Hmm, I remember those days. The mistake was made when they integrated the web browser into the rest of the operative system, paving the road to making Windows severely vulnerable to various security attacks. Although it's really bad that this has increased the number of victims of such attacks, I also find it nice as it lowers the reputation of Microsoft - a company that I hate. Maybe it eventually will cause Linux to take over.


here's hoping


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21 Oct 2010, 3:50 pm

Titangeek wrote:
Beauty_pact wrote:
Hmm, I remember those days. The mistake was made when they integrated the web browser into the rest of the operative system, paving the road to making Windows severely vulnerable to various security attacks. Although it's really bad that this has increased the number of victims of such attacks, I also find it nice as it lowers the reputation of Microsoft - a company that I hate. Maybe it eventually will cause Linux to take over.


here's hoping


That would be a penguin-uin situation.


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21 Oct 2010, 4:01 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
That would be a penguin-uin situation.


Haha :)

Indeed it would. :P



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21 Oct 2010, 4:06 pm

In the early days, Microsoft still mostly ripped off other peoples' ideas unless they could easily buy them out. Not much as changed, really.

I'll admit Windows Phone 7 looks cool, but the apps take forever to launch, there's no multitasking, and there's no copy and paste... :roll:



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21 Oct 2010, 8:21 pm

IE9 is supposed to fix a lot of the standards compliance issues in older IE browsers. I'm so glad Micro$oft is finally caving in and realizing that being a total pain in the @$$ to web developers is no longer profitable, and they are, at least grudgingly, abandoning their strategy of making the rest of the world bend towards them. However, until every single IE6, IE7, and IE8 user switches to it or to alternative browsers, IE9 is hardly a blessing. In any case, I wouldn't use it, because as soon as IE market share stops declining (if it indeed does) M$ will be back to their old tricks. They're the kind of organization that only behaves when they've been beaten into submission.


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22 Oct 2010, 12:18 am

msn and their cronies have this "designed obsolescence" thing down cold. and i hate 'em for it. :x



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11 Nov 2010, 5:24 pm

NO!
IE was never good



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12 Nov 2010, 3:10 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
Conversely, if you make a page look good in IE, it should do well with other browsers. 8)

Not true. If you make a page look good in each of the various versions od IE that are still out there, you will have a page that is not standards compliant.

If you make a page that is standards compliant, and SHOULD look good, then it will usually look good "in Google Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and even Opera". However, it is quite unlikely to look like anything you intended, when each of the IE variants get at it.

And those standards... they would be set by the W3C guys... a consortium that includes Microsoft.

http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Member/List


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12 Nov 2010, 4:49 pm

Internet Explorer was sh*t with boots on from the git-go

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12 Nov 2010, 4:51 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Internet Explorer was sh*t with boots on from the git-go

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rofl :lol:


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12 Nov 2010, 5:07 pm

Internet Exporer was not the first web browser. Besides, Microsoft used reverse engineered code from Netscape to develop it.



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12 Nov 2010, 5:35 pm

That's a bit misleading. Netscape was based on NCSA Mosaic. M$ licensed Mosaic from Spyglass, whom has a license from NCSA. So both are derived from NCSA Mosaic and neither relied on reverse engineering.