H.A.A.R.P. and earthquakes?

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Has anyone heard about this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcHPAR_5TEc[/youtube]
Video of earthquake lights appearing 30 minutes before an 8.0M earthquake hit Sichuan, China in 2008 and killed 68,000 people.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BwIadY5FI8[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4[/youtube]
Fast forward to Japan 2011. Pay attention to the section in the video where the Russian Scientist mentions ionosphere readings over Japan...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypTY86cN2Y4[/youtube]HAARP Magnetometer data shows Japan earthquake was induced.

More information...
Are We in a HAARP "Earthquake War"?
HAARP, Earthquakes, and Hurricanes

I'll be honest to say I don't know much about microwaves but it makes sense that if you have a facility like HAARP that can produce 3.6 Megawatts of high-frequency microwaves and you point it at the ionosphere, it could cause some sort of massive damage when the ionosphere is pushed into the upper atmosphere and then rebounds. Think of a slingshot facing toward the ground and you pull the sling back. What would happen to the ground when the sling was released. It would likely damage the ground it hits then create small "rippling" effects. Something like this.

Other HAARP-like facilities:

1) Mu Radar – 1 megawatt facility in Japan (34°51'14.80"N 136° 6'19.45"E).
2) Arecibo Observatory – 2 megawatt facility in Puerto Rico (18°20'38.97"N 66°45'9.77"W).
3) HIPAS – 70 megawatt facility east of Fairbanks, Alaska (64°52'21.18"N 146°50'18.78"W).
4) Sura – 190 megawatt facility in central Russia (56° 7'10.32"N 46° 2'4.41"E).
5) EISCAT – 1 gigawatt facility in Tromsø, Northern Norway (69°35'1.06"N 19°12'57.11"E).

Can you believe that? 1 Gigawatt HAARP at EISCAT. ONE GIGAWATT. Great scott! What sort of damage would 1 GW cause?

Has anyone heard about this or seen other reports about it?

that's one HAARP i'm not sure we should keep playing. atmospheric phenomena are still not sufficiently well-mapped that we can know for certainty what will happen in every scenario, when we start playing the HAARP music too loudly or in not quite the right venue. it might be US[A] that has to "face the music" and not our combatant, among possible unintended effects.

Utter balderdash. 3.6 megawatts which is 3.6 joules of energy per second is chump change compared to the energy generated by tectonic plates grinding against each other, which is what causes earthquakes.

ruveyn

^agree.
Plate tectonics is pretty well-understood and well-known; Japan is situated on the ring of fire and rode this earthquake and tsunami out far better than most other countries would have, because they knew that both were risks and were as well-prepared as any human population in this day-and-age could have been.

Last edited by LKL on 19 Mar 2011, 9:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

That would be 3600000 joules per second, I think.

But it is still ridiculous to think these earthquakes are induced. We do not have nearly the level of understanding of such matters to actually control them.

There isn't any tangible evidence for any of these claims - hence, they must be true!

I am a part of the conspiracy.

Sherlock Holmes once stated "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." I'm not saying I believe this, rather I discovered this today and wanted to see if anyone else heard about it, what they thought about it, and how accurate it could be.

OK, but you haven't eliminated the other explanations as "impossible," nor have any of the HAARP conspiracy nuts. As it stands, there are plenty of other, much more plausible, explanations. One of them is simply that s**t happens.

Sigh...

Did you miss the part where I wrote "I'm not saying I believe this"? By this I didn't mean the quote from Sherlock Holmes. I was referring to the HAARP / earthquake connection. I am merely saying I found the connection interesting and wanted to post it to WP community to see what all of you thought.

NP mate
I think earthquake lights, as what those phenomena are pictured, are an interesting phenomena. There is some debate about the exact mechanism that causes of them
I am also amused by the pictures of Mammatus clouds as some sort of evidence towards the end. In fact some of those pictures are actually here in the Wikipedia article on Mammatus clouds: Mammatus Cloud - the term "Mammatus" literally means 'breast-like' due to their apparent resemblance to human female boobies

I don't feel HAARP is any sort of weapon, one can actually go tour the HAARP facility and they apparently allow foreigners to freely visit as well...
The conspiracy likely started because the terms the HAARP researchers use (their research is also public) are often ambiguous and some unscientific minds on the internet have taken it upon themselves to 'decipher' the research by making random 'connect-the-dots' (the usual conspiracy routine )

Last edited by Vigilans on 19 Mar 2011, 11:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

in anycase, the big money being pumped into HAARP has the expectation of an eventual return [desired outcome] upon investment. what is the primary desired outcome? is it to reliably alter the weather, for good or ill? a new type of communication? enhanced surveillance? to knock enemy aircraft out of the sky? According to the HAARP research program documents released under FOIA, HAARP energy beams will be used to "control ionospheric processes in such a way as to greatly enhance the performance of C3 systems (or, to deny accessibility to an adversary)." whether or not it can make the earth quake [strategically], it can still do other kinds of dirt, which should give us all some pause.

Does the "C3" in C3 systems refer to the military concept: Command, Control, and Communications?

Weather manipulation technology and research is very real.

The ability to trigger targeted earthquakes...weaponizing the planet itself, is real.

How far they have come and how much control they have over it is what is in dispute. Doubt anyone knows for certain.

If they want to keep something secret they could hide it in plain sight of everyone. By making H.A.A.R.P. a public facility, with tours and posting non-specific information on the public website about what they research, they let people draw their own conclusions. People would think the U.S. Government isn't capable of creating such a devastating weapon, and then using it. Right?

J. Robert Oppenheimer said, "When you see something that is technically sweet, you go ahead and do it and you argue about what to do about it only after you have had your technical success. That is the way it was with the atomic bomb."

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No, I saw that, hence why I drew a distinction between you and "the HAARP conspiracy nuts." You didn't give any compelling reason why we should suspect the standard explanations of seismic activity to be lacking, and neither have any proponents of the HAARP conspiracy theory.


Well then, you have your answer: 4 of 6 respondents to your thread so far regard the idea as hogwash, 1 is vague but expresses misgivings, and the last has a history of buying into crazy ideas from conspiracy sites.