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31 Aug 2011, 9:28 pm

Why why why? i have been spending hours removing the remains of a worm that the av software couldn't. Why don't these people get a life? rather than ruining it for the rest of us!? :evil:



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31 Aug 2011, 9:45 pm

Because they have no real talent. Its pretty easy to damage and destroy, its way harder to create something that is truely awsome.

Its sometimes easier to do a reinstall then spend hours trying to fix something like that - and you get an added bonus of a nice clean system and possibly a OS upgrade.



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31 Aug 2011, 10:04 pm

Viruses? What are those?


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31 Aug 2011, 10:22 pm

Orwell wrote:
Viruses? What are those?


Macs have viruses too.
Herd Immunity
need another 5-10% market share before they start realizing that

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01 Sep 2011, 1:30 am

xowe wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Viruses? What are those?


Macs have viruses too.
Herd Immunity
need another 5-10% market share before they start realizing that

:)

Actually... they don't. At least not any that are out in the wild. There are a couple trojans out there for Mac if you're dumb enough to download pirated software, but no viruses right now.

Anyways, I don't have a Mac. I run GNU/Linux.


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01 Sep 2011, 1:49 am

Orwell wrote:
xowe wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Viruses? What are those?


Macs have viruses too.
Herd Immunity
need another 5-10% market share before they start realizing that

:)

Actually... they don't. At least not any that are out in the wild. There are a couple trojans out there for Mac if you're dumb enough to download pirated software, but no viruses right now.

Anyways, I don't have a Mac. I run GNU/Linux.


after all these years?



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01 Sep 2011, 4:54 am

Orwell wrote:
Viruses? What are those?


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I have to run Windows often too (though I'm a Unix fanatic). I haven't had a virus in years...



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01 Sep 2011, 12:59 pm

Orwell wrote:
Viruses? What are those?
Absolutely. :lol:
I think the OP might be better off hating the weak excuse of an OS that makes this sort of malarkey so easy. If the door's hanging off its hinges, someone will stroll in sooner or later.

bigbadbeast2007 wrote:
after all these years?
Yes. Just goes to show that much better decisions were made about OS design, and it's the same with Linux too. 8)


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01 Sep 2011, 1:14 pm

A few days ago I mis-typed sourceforge's address, and now I have an incredibly hard to get rid of trojan that AVG can't remove. I'm downloading a debian disk as I type this.



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01 Sep 2011, 2:07 pm

Orwell wrote:
xowe wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Viruses? What are those?


Macs have viruses too.
Herd Immunity
need another 5-10% market share before they start realizing that

:)

Actually... they don't. At least not any that are out in the wild. There are a couple trojans out there for Mac if you're dumb enough to download pirated software, but no viruses right now.

Anyways, I don't have a Mac. I run GNU/Linux.

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002165.html
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002206.html


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01 Sep 2011, 3:58 pm

I run windows... Havn't had a Virus for Years.
I would rather be running linux.

I have several fairly heavy use Linux servers which have run for entire years without having any problems/reboots/etc.
There
Even the windows servers, as long as we don't have users logging onto them (i.e. terminal services) they pretty much run until you have to do updates on them.

and Macs are just as vunerable... just not as exploited.
read... http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10444561-245.html

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01 Sep 2011, 4:29 pm

xowe wrote:
and Macs are just as vunerable... just not as exploited.
Of course there will be vulnerabilities but this is rather like saying that because <some cheap domestic runabout car> has a criminally poor build quality, all vehicles must therefore suffer from the same types of problem.
Not so, and not so by a very long shot.


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01 Sep 2011, 4:41 pm

Cornflake wrote:
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and Macs are just as vunerable... just not as exploited.
Of course there will be vulnerabilities but this is rather like saying that because <some cheap domestic runabout car> has a criminally poor build quality, all vehicles must therefore suffer from the same types of problem.
Not so, and not so by a very long shot.


Haha, nice analogy...

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01 Sep 2011, 8:53 pm

bigbadbeast2007 wrote:
Why why why? i have been spending hours removing the remains of a worm that the av software couldn't. Why don't these people get a life? rather than ruining it for the rest of us!? :evil:
Its just the price you pay for using an operating system that is easy to code for. Because most programs are made for windows, most viruses are made for windows. If you only use a handful of programs for basic functions go use a mac where that's all that exists.


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02 Sep 2011, 5:21 am

Knifey wrote:
bigbadbeast2007 wrote:
Why why why? i have been spending hours removing the remains of a worm that the av software couldn't. Why don't these people get a life? rather than ruining it for the rest of us!? :evil:
Its just the price you pay for using an operating system that is easy to code for. Because most programs are made for windows, most viruses are made for windows. If you only use a handful of programs for basic functions go use a mac where that's all that exists.


No

Its the price you pay for running a GUI in ring 0 and having a messed up permissions system that still lets you write dlls to root with a limited account...

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02 Sep 2011, 5:55 am

Tom_Kakes wrote:
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bigbadbeast2007 wrote:
Why why why? i have been spending hours removing the remains of a worm that the av software couldn't. Why don't these people get a life? rather than ruining it for the rest of us!? :evil:
Its just the price you pay for using an operating system that is easy to code for. Because most programs are made for windows, most viruses are made for windows. If you only use a handful of programs for basic functions go use a mac where that's all that exists.
No

Its the price you pay for running a GUI in ring 0 and having a messed up permissions system that still lets you write dlls to root with a limited account...

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@Knifey: Any OS is easy to code for, given its API, and viruses are written for Windows because it's far too easily done - for the reasons Tom gives.


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