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13 Oct 2011, 9:11 pm

I'm still sticking with Maverick. I tried 11.04 for awhile, compiz never behaved correctly for me, even when logged in in classic mode. I finally got 10.10 just the way I like it, and don't feel like spending 2 or 3 days setting stuff up again, and the only thing about Oneric that really looks appealing to me is Gnome3, which isn't Compiz-compatible.
Anyone upgrade, or planning on upgrading?



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13 Oct 2011, 9:20 pm

English, please?

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13 Oct 2011, 9:44 pm

New version of Ubuntu Linux lol



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13 Oct 2011, 9:46 pm

D'oh!

Cool!


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16 Oct 2011, 3:04 pm

I don't like upgrading my Linux distros.
Its almost always asking for something to go wrong.
I have a Zotac Zbox at home that runs on Linux. I had it running Natty narwal and it sucked so much.
So I switched back to meer kat. Never been happier.
Everything works properly, less graphical glitches and a little more fast.

Nice to see some one who has stuck to the 10.00 range rather then the 11.00



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16 Oct 2011, 3:48 pm

Yup.

I'm getting narked off at the corporatisation of all the linux distros.

Every time a big company gets involved it inevitably ends up in a race to shove more new shiny untested and unstable features into it at the expense of old stable stuff that worked flawlessly for 20 years.

I'm not upgrading because I don't like the new attention seeking desktop environments and oh great, 11.10 removes gnome 2 completely making unity compulsory. :evil:

And the crap that is pulse audio gets installed every single time meaning I have to spend time removing all the crap and reverting back to sound management that actually works...



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16 Oct 2011, 4:39 pm

DC wrote:
Every time a big company gets involved it inevitably ends up in a race to shove more new shiny untested and unstable features into it at the expense of old stable stuff that worked flawlessly for 20 years.


Disagree; Red Hat is a very successful large company with a strong value on stability. Check out a Live CD of CentOS or Scientific (the two most popular Red Hat clones) if you haven't already.



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16 Oct 2011, 4:50 pm

I booted the KUbuntu version (thus avoiding the whole Unity/Gnome issue) of Oneric from DVD this afternoon and it ran fine. Even that damned Pulse Audio managed to find both audio devices and actually remembered one of them through the whole session, so that was a major advancement on a first boot. Of course I can probably look forward to at least a small punch up with it later on. :roll:
I'd much rather just have ALSA and /dev/dspX ta very much - it works perfectly well.
I have some spare disk space so I'll give it a work out but at the moment, a tweaked Karmic installation remains my "live" system. A rebuild of some sort is likely to be forced soon though - my disk is starting to sprout SMART errors.
Plus there's lots of shiny new goodness I'm missing out on by not upgrading.

I know Compiz is just fizz n' fireworks but I've never really had an issue with it. The only relevant constant I can think of has been NVidia video cards, and there would need to be a very good reason for me to use something else. In a previous life as Beryl it tended to work reliably only when the wind was in the right direction though, NVidia or not...
Video has always been the very least of the problems I've found over the years.


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16 Oct 2011, 5:08 pm

Cornflake wrote:
I booted the KUbuntu version (thus avoiding the whole Unity/Gnome issue) of Oneric from DVD this afternoon and it ran fine. Even that damned Pulse Audio managed to find both audio devices and actually remembered one of them through the whole session, so that was a major advancement on a first boot. Of course I can probably look forward to at least a small punch up with it later on. :roll:
I'd much rather just have ALSA and /dev/dspX ta very much - it works perfectly well.
I have some spare disk space so I'll give it a work out but at the moment, a tweaked Karmic installation remains my "live" system. A rebuild of some sort is likely to be forced soon though - my disk is starting to sprout SMART errors.
Plus there's lots of shiny new goodness I'm missing out on by not upgrading.

I know Compiz is just fizz n' fireworks but I've never really had an issue with it. The only relevant constant I can think of has been NVidia video cards, and there would need to be a very good reason for me to use something else. In a previous life as Beryl it tended to work reliably only when the wind was in the right direction though, NVidia or not...
Video has always been the very least of the problems I've found over the years.

You think its worth the risk upgrading?



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16 Oct 2011, 5:23 pm

Madbones wrote:
You think its worth the risk upgrading?
An upgrade risk?
I don't see it as a risk at all - and especially since I'll be continuing to run my existing system (hard disk permitting) until the Oneric installation is tweaked into shape.

The thing is, there are always improvements or something new or some new take on a way of doing something in Linux and that's part of the fun. Of course it can be initially frustrating finding my way around the new stuff and if some of it really does turn out to be more trouble that it's worth - the network manager for Karmic for example, and probably a few versions after it - then I rip it out and do it by hand.
You don't have to do it their way - this isn't Windows! :lol:


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16 Oct 2011, 5:31 pm

Cornflake wrote:
Madbones wrote:
You think its worth the risk upgrading?
An upgrade risk?
I don't see it as a risk at all - and especially since I'll be continuing to run my existing system (hard disk permitting) until the Oneric installation is tweaked into shape.

The thing is, there are always improvements or something new or some new take on a way of doing something in Linux and that's part of the fun. Of course it can be initially frustrating finding my way around the new stuff and if some of it really does turn out to be more trouble that it's worth - the network manager for Karmic for example, and probably a few versions after it - then I rip it out and do it by hand.
You don't have to do it their way - this isn't Windows! :lol:

Your right..
I have only just recovered from using Windows.
I shal do it.
It does look pretty good.



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17 Oct 2011, 10:36 am

Ubuntu Linux 11.10 is supposed to include the GNOME Shell, which means you don't have to use Unity. I just upgraded yesterday, but I've been in Windows Vista more for work, so I haven't tried the GNOME Shell yet.



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17 Oct 2011, 10:55 am

Oh yes - so it does: http://www.virtualhelp.me/linux/470-ins ... ric-ocelot
Not there as a default but apparently it's easily installed.


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17 Oct 2011, 3:13 pm

The Oneric livecd wouldn't even boot on my laptop. Same deal with Natty.


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17 Oct 2011, 3:19 pm

8O Blimey...


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17 Oct 2011, 3:40 pm

Orwell wrote:
The Oneric livecd wouldn't even boot on my laptop. Same deal with Natty.


Sorry to state the bleedin obvious, but you did go into the BIOS and change the boot order so that it tries to boot from optical media before your HDD didn't you?