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01 Feb 2012, 1:09 am

My problem is I had my internet disconnected/uninstalled for a month and when I had it reinstalled I no longer had Windows on my computer (I had a virus delete it, so for the moment I'm stuck using Mint). I can't get the router's page to load, so I'm assuming I need IE to do this.

I've downloaded Wine and installed it but I'm completely unfamiliar with Linux (It's been years since I used it last).

If anyone knows how I can set up my router with Mint I would really appreciate your help.

I have a Linksys Cisco.

Thanks in advance!



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01 Feb 2012, 2:00 am

Any browser should be able to handle the UI of a router page. Occasionally the software on the router will likely memory leak or encounter errors where it will not load. A reboot of the router (you can simply yank the power and re-apply) should allow you to access the management page.


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01 Feb 2012, 10:26 am

Open any browser (as "beers" said) and put 192.168.1.1 (which looks like what the Linksys uses) in the address bar. Login and that's it.

If it isn't 192.168.1.1 you should be able to find it, either written on the router, or in the user manual.

If you can't remember your username/password (the default seems to be a blank username and a password of "admin"), you may need to "factory reset" the router.

The assumption, above, is that you connect to your router with an Ethernet cable - which Mint will see immediately. It gets a little more complex if you are trying to set up directly via wireless. You'll have to figure out which of the available wireless networks is your router, and connect there (with WPA2, naturally) first.

PS. No one needs IE for anything... except for easy acquisition of viruses. :)


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01 Feb 2012, 11:16 am

lau wrote:
Open any browser (as "beers" said) and put 192.168.1.1 (which looks like what the Linksys uses) in the address bar. Login and that's it.

If it isn't 192.168.1.1 you should be able to find it, either written on the router, or in the user manual.

If you can't remember your username/password (the default seems to be a blank username and a password of "admin"), you may need to "factory reset" the router.

The assumption, above, is that you connect to your router with an Ethernet cable - which Mint will see immediately. It gets a little more complex if you are trying to set up directly via wireless. You'll have to figure out which of the available wireless networks is your router, and connect there (with WPA2, naturally) first.

PS. No one needs IE for anything... except for easy acquisition of viruses. :)


Even simpler is to open 'Network Tools' ( I'm pretty sure that With Ubuntu based distros that it's located under System>Preferances or System>Administration, but then again, you have that weird Mint Menu, so it may be differant) , select the 'Netstat' tab, ensure the 'Routing Table Information' bullet is checked, click the 'Netstat' button and look at the information that is displayed in the box below. The IP adress of your router shouldl be one of the of the first two displayed under the heading 'Gateway'. --Enter the IP address in your browser and you should get the login screen to the router.


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01 Feb 2012, 11:41 am

I know the IP address (that is what I meant by the router's page).

It will not load with Firefox or Chrome.



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01 Feb 2012, 11:43 am

beers wrote:
Any browser should be able to handle the UI of a router page. Occasionally the software on the router will likely memory leak or encounter errors where it will not load. A reboot of the router (you can simply yank the power and re-apply) should allow you to access the management page.


I've tired that 3 times previously. It didn't work.



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01 Feb 2012, 11:46 am

May be worth trying a factory reset of the device from the button on the back, although you would have to re-establish your wifi settings.

You can telnet to port 80 of the device to see if it is even accepting HTTP traffic or is explicitly disabled.


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01 Feb 2012, 12:31 pm

Lynners wrote:
I know the IP address (that is what I meant by the router's page).

It will not load with Firefox or Chrome.


Well that sucks. I've never heard of a router that only loads into IE. --Sorry.


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01 Feb 2012, 1:23 pm

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Lynners wrote:
I know the IP address (that is what I meant by the router's page).

It will not load with Firefox or Chrome.


Well that sucks. I've never heard of a router that only loads into IE. --Sorry.

Me neither. Seeing as most routers use Linux, or something similar, internally, it would be very odd for them to depend on IE.

Lynners, is the router really not visible at 192.168.1.1 - as is stated in the Linksys user manual? If it isn't, then it probably does need a factory reset. My BT Home Hub uses 192.168.1.254 - which is fairly non-standard. It does allow me to change it (to exactly what, I'm not sure, but I don't think I'll bother to find out!). My other router, I did change to use the 10.0.0.0/8 private network. Some routers default to that. The 192.168.0.0/16 range is probably more common, with 192.168.1.1 being the favourite.


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01 Feb 2012, 2:15 pm

lau wrote:
Fogman wrote:
Lynners wrote:
I know the IP address (that is what I meant by the router's page).

It will not load with Firefox or Chrome.


Well that sucks. I've never heard of a router that only loads into IE. --Sorry.

Me neither. Seeing as most routers use Linux, or something similar, internally, it would be very odd for them to depend on IE.

Lynners, is the router really not visible at 192.168.1.1 - as is stated in the Linksys user manual? If it isn't, then it probably does need a factory reset. My BT Home Hub uses 192.168.1.254 - which is fairly non-standard. It does allow me to change it (to exactly what, I'm not sure, but I don't think I'll bother to find out!). My other router, I did change to use the 10.0.0.0/8 private network. Some routers default to that. The 192.168.0.0/16 range is probably more common, with 192.168.1.1 being the favourite.


I did do a reset and it still didn't help. After that I googled the router's name and Linux Mint and found a forum with a post from a guy that was having the same issue. He was told he would need to use IE.

I have to go to work shortly or I would try messing around with it some more.

I shall return :)



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01 Feb 2012, 2:17 pm

And I do know the IP address is correct because it shows up on wifi devices (with a good signal).

It just doesn't work :(



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01 Feb 2012, 3:28 pm

I've never had that problem with Linksys. :?

If you've Opera installed, I believe there's a setting which allows you to tell the browser to identify as IE - I used it to get around the IE-Only requirement on a financial website I used to use. This should determine whether or not IE is necessary to access your router's UI, at least.

Link to Instructions



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01 Feb 2012, 6:19 pm

Lynners wrote:
And I do know the IP address is correct because it shows up on wifi devices

but... the router's admin page is never available to WiFi devices, until you have gone through the process of identifying the WiFi device to the router.

I don't understand why you seem to be acting as if the router's IP address is somehow secret. It is not. They are usually just standard local network addresses. Certainly they are so, after a factory reset. The Linksys, as I have said, should be at 192.168.1.1 and if you are trying to use any other IP address (i.e. not a local network address, which will always be in one of the ranges 192.168.0.0/16 or 10.0.0.0/8), I'd suspect you are using either the IP address your ISP has given your network, or some server at your ISP - neither of which are likely to respond to http requests.

Or, maybe, a thought, is it possible that Mint has somehow defaulted to using 198.168.1.1 for your machine? In a shell, try:
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hostname -i
It should report something like 192.168.1.2 if the Linksys has set it. It could be that Mint has messed up, thinks it can be 198.168.1.1 and then your machine and the router will just argue with each other.

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I did come across an old article (2011/11/30) that suggested:
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apt-get firmware-b43-installer
but I don't suppose that is needed, these days. You could try it though. It's not installed on my Oneiric Ocelot. (Of course, you'd need an internet connection to do it that simply. Chickens and eggs. It depends on, amongst other things, b43-fwcutter - so on another machine, with internet access, go to the appropriate repository and grab both packages by hand. Install the latter first. There is yet another b43 package: firmware-b43-lpphy-installer - which says it is for chipset BCM4312. Any idea which chipset your router uses? :)


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01 Feb 2012, 11:06 pm

lau wrote:
Lynners wrote:
And I do know the IP address is correct because it shows up on wifi devices

but... the router's admin page is never available to WiFi devices, until you have gone through the process of identifying the WiFi device to the router.

I don't understand why you seem to be acting as if the router's IP address is somehow secret. It is not. They are usually just standard local network addresses. Certainly they are so, after a factory reset. The Linksys, as I have said, should be at 192.168.1.1 and if you are trying to use any other IP address (i.e. not a local network address, which will always be in one of the ranges 192.168.0.0/16 or 10.0.0.0/8), I'd suspect you are using either the IP address your ISP has given your network, or some server at your ISP - neither of which are likely to respond to http requests.

Huh?

I know the address and it is 192.168.1.1

It will not load. Do you want a screen shot?



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01 Feb 2012, 11:10 pm

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I've never had that problem with Linksys. :?

If you've Opera installed, I believe there's a setting which allows you to tell the browser to identify as IE - I used it to get around the IE-Only requirement on a financial website I used to use. This should determine whether or not IE is necessary to access your router's UI, at least.

Link to Instructions


Hey, thanks!

That is another issue I have been having. I can't log into my bank accounts either.



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02 Feb 2012, 10:39 am

Just some standard troubleshooting type questions:
1) Are you able to connect to any other Internet connections? (assuming it is a laptop)
2) What version of Mint are you using? If it's an older one then it might be time to consider upgrading to Lisa. Maybe it would be a bit more cooperative?