Any way to force big stores to give the CD for the OEM OS?

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03 Aug 2012, 2:02 pm

It's so, so frustrating that big stores no longer do this, even though you have legally bought the OS when you buy a computer. Instead they tell you there's a hidden partition with a default restoration! WTF, what happened to the recovery console and whatnot. Is the only option piracy these days?

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03 Aug 2012, 3:41 pm

Mootoo wrote:

Actually, it's not the stores' decision, it's the manufacturers that do that. And not all of them do that. For example, I know personally that Samsung does provide a DVD that contains both a restoration program to restore Windows and all necessary drivers, and a stand-alone Windows installer. Also, I believe you can simply request the manufacturer to mail you a restore CD, though I'm sure they will charge you a small fee.

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03 Aug 2012, 5:11 pm

Most computers I have experience with that have recovery partitions also have methods for making recovery discs. It probably saves them $2 of profit per computer to have you make your own.

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03 Aug 2012, 5:20 pm

I'm surprised more people haven't gravitated to Windows 8. I've been using it now for about 3 months. It's free and works like a charm.

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03 Aug 2012, 6:51 pm

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I'm surprised more people haven't gravitated to Windows 8. I've been using it now for about 3 months. It's free and works like a charm.

Windows 8 is the death of the relative openness Windows had. A stale piece of bloated software, not even efficient, used because programs are developed for it. That's what happens when you let a monopoly happen.
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03 Aug 2012, 9:19 pm

Clonezilla is a very good program for making a drive image. I do this any time I purchase a new computer that does not include the operating system disc. I also do this because the second thing I do is wipe off Windows and install Linux.

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04 Aug 2012, 12:25 am

A lot of machines don't even have DVD drives. They should have put an installer image on your hard drive in a separate partition ("Recovery").

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04 Aug 2012, 12:26 am

redrobin62 wrote:

I'm surprised more people haven't gravitated to Windows 8. I've been using it now for about 3 months. It's free and works like a charm.

The last milestone I tried didn't give me a lot I was missing from Windows 7 (just a few things), but did give me some crap I didn't want. Not worth going beta. For me Windows 7 is like Windows 2000, highly functional, minimal crap I don't want, just the way I like it. My only issue with it is the Aero look is getting crusty compared to OSX. The look, not the function. And I don't think OSX is a spring chicken either.

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04 Aug 2012, 12:26 am

ReneDescartes wrote:

redrobin62 wrote:

I'm surprised more people haven't gravitated to Windows 8. I've been using it now for about 3 months. It's free and works like a charm.

How is Windows 8 less open than Windows 7?

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04 Aug 2012, 12:36 am

MyFutureSelfnMe wrote:

A lot of machines don't even have DVD drives. They should have put an installer image on your hard drive in a separate partition ("Recovery").

The problem with a recovery partition occurs when the hard drive itself goes belly up or if a user is putting in a larger hard drive.

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04 Aug 2012, 1:16 am

cyberscan wrote:

MyFutureSelfnMe wrote:

A lot of machines don't even have DVD drives. They should have put an installer image on your hard drive in a separate partition ("Recovery").

The problem with a recovery partition occurs when the hard drive itself goes belly up or if a user is putting in a larger hard drive.

I agree, and I think the recovery should be installable via Internet for that reason. It is what it is.

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04 Aug 2012, 1:58 am

You should go with a smaller company if you're buying a desktop. Otherwise, if you "pirate" the image, it is perfectly legal to use it with your own product key.

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04 Aug 2012, 10:10 am

MyFutureSelfnMe wrote:

ReneDescartes wrote:

redrobin62 wrote:

I'm surprised more people haven't gravitated to Windows 8. I've been using it now for about 3 months. It's free and works like a charm.

How is Windows 8 less open than Windows 7?

Have you heard of the Windows Store ? They're doing like Mac OS. A shame.
Windows has always been awful since they have no serious concurrence.

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04 Aug 2012, 10:31 am

redrobin62 wrote:

I'm surprised more people haven't gravitated to Windows 8. I've been using it now for about 3 months. It's free and works like a charm.

Just wait until the commercial version comes out in a few months, then you;ll find yourself locked out of your 'free Windows' due to the fact that it's preview demoware.

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How is Windows 8 less open than Windows 7?

Because Windows 8 computers will make it quite hard to run any other OS. Even though x86/AMD64 archetectures may have a loophole built in ARM devices will not. Still, even if you don't run Windows, MS will still profit from your choice of a non-MS Operating System. --If you can't beat the competition, undermine and subvert them.

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04 Aug 2012, 11:37 am

Fogman wrote:

redrobin62 wrote:

I'm surprised more people haven't gravitated to Windows 8. I've been using it now for about 3 months. It's free and works like a charm.

Just wait until the commercial version comes out in a few months, then you;ll find yourself locked out of your 'free Windows' due to the fact that it's preview demoware.

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How is Windows 8 less open than Windows 7?

You want to buy a high end Windows 8 tablet to run linux?

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04 Aug 2012, 12:21 pm

noname_ever, if he's only referring to Windows 8 tablets, that pretty much makes it the same as any tablet.

I do think it's anticompetitive, but since the tablet has the Microsoft name on the front, I am leaning toward it's their choice. Slightly.

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