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26 Aug 2012, 3:05 pm

I'll be grateful for your guidance.

Thanks! :) :)



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26 Aug 2012, 3:14 pm

have you tried the virtualization programs?

VMWare
Microsoft Virtual Machine (takes a little finagling but it works)
Virtualbox



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26 Aug 2012, 8:02 pm

thechadmaster wrote:
have you tried the virtualization programs?

VMWare
Microsoft Virtual Machine (takes a little finagling but it works)
Virtualbox


VMware is $249.00 USD http://store.vmware.com/store/vmware/en ... 6028619835 OUCH!! !

Microsoft Virtual Machine: this says it doesn't do win 98 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtua ... ments.aspx

I'm a bit confused forgive me :oops:

Virtualbox looks good. A friend asked me for a solution but this is over my head. :?



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27 Aug 2012, 10:46 am

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... akH9XJhPEQ

That's probably your best bet.



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27 Aug 2012, 12:45 pm

Why do you want to do this?



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27 Aug 2012, 7:18 pm

MyFutureSelfnMe wrote:
Why do you want to do this?


My friend wants to use old software for some piano recording program.



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28 Aug 2012, 9:59 am

Get virtualbox. You'll be able to figure it out just fine!

Really though. why? game compatibility? Win 7 does pretty decently compared with other versions in this department.



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28 Aug 2012, 11:52 am

Right in most cases, if someone is running software that broke in Win2000 and above, and had never been fixed, I'd think switching to a more recent program would be a more sane solution. Actually running Win98, even in VirtualBox, is gross.

The only exception I've seen to this was the forum user who couldn't find a newer program with the audio manipulation feature she needed.



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28 Aug 2012, 3:50 pm

MyFutureSelfnMe wrote:
if someone is running software that broke in Win2000 and above, and had never been fixed, I'd think switching to a more recent program would be a more sane solution.
I'd guess if that was available, required, or possible then it would have been done by now.
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Actually running Win98, even in VirtualBox, is gross.
I doubt anyone cares.
Win98 is fine with what it does, even in a VirtualBox, which will very likely provide a free solution to the OP's problem.
I did it myself a while ago because I needed to run some old, long-abandoned software which XP had problems with and while I don't doubt that a shiny new megabox complete with Win7 would have provided a more acceptably "whizz-bang" solution, and may even have worked for all I cared - the more immediately efficient solution was to install VirtualBox + Win98 and have done with it.


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29 Aug 2012, 12:22 am

Cornflake wrote:
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if someone is running software that broke in Win2000 and above, and had never been fixed, I'd think switching to a more recent program would be a more sane solution.
I'd guess if that was available, required, or possible then it would have been done by now.

Why?

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Actually running Win98, even in VirtualBox, is gross.
I doubt anyone cares.
Win98 is fine with what it does, even in a VirtualBox, which will very likely provide a free solution to the OP's problem.
I did it myself a while ago because I needed to run some old, long-abandoned software which XP had problems with and while I don't doubt that a shiny new megabox complete with Win7 would have provided a more acceptably "whizz-bang" solution, and may even have worked for all I cared - the more immediately efficient solution was to install VirtualBox + Win98 and have done with it.

What software did you have that wouldn't run under Windows XP?



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29 Aug 2012, 9:46 am

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Why?
Because there would be no requirement to run it in VirtualBox under an earlier OS.
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What software did you have that wouldn't run under Windows XP?
Oh dear, how it hurts to go there again... :lol:
It was some pretty foul bespoke software written to maintain garage records - cars, mileage, service work, spares etc - which had been dragged, screaming, from DOS into functioning under Win9x but WinXP proved too much and it fell over with meaningless runtime errors. (meaningless in that they were documented nowhere: we could guess and surmise but that rapidly got tedious)
Since the purpose of poking around with it was to pull apart the file data format used and extract the information, in preparation for moving it to replacement software written under Vista, it really was easier to just quickly provide the exact environment it last worked in.
That I could do all this under Linux was a further plus-point, of course. :wink:


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29 Aug 2012, 12:15 pm

Cornflake wrote:
MyFutureSelfnMe wrote:
Why?
Because there would be no requirement to run it in VirtualBox under an earlier OS.
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What software did you have that wouldn't run under Windows XP?
Oh dear, how it hurts to go there again... :lol:
It was some pretty foul bespoke software written to maintain garage records - cars, mileage, service work, spares etc - which had been dragged, screaming, from DOS into functioning under Win9x but WinXP proved too much and it fell over with meaningless runtime errors. (meaningless in that they were documented nowhere: we could guess and surmise but that rapidly got tedious)
Since the purpose of poking around with it was to pull apart the file data format used and extract the information, in preparation for moving it to replacement software written under Vista, it really was easier to just quickly provide the exact environment it last worked in.
That I could do all this under Linux was a further plus-point, of course. :wink:


Ok so that's a niche requirement - reverse engineering some old crud in order to banish it.

Running it day in and day out - ehhh.



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29 Aug 2012, 12:30 pm

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Ok so that's a niche requirement - reverse engineering some old crud in order to banish it.

Running it day in and day out - ehhh.
Meh, I really don't see much difference between doing that and what the OP wants, and I think it's stretching a point to say "running it day in and day out" - it doesn't exactly sound like his friend expects to run an international group of companies on Win98 - just one "piano recording program". That's a niche requirement too.
If there's nothing available/acceptable except (1) not running it at all and (2) running it under Win98+VirtualBox, what's the big deal? It's not like the rest of us are going to catch something nasty and drop dead because of it.


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29 Aug 2012, 1:00 pm

Cornflake wrote:
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Ok so that's a niche requirement - reverse engineering some old crud in order to banish it.

Running it day in and day out - ehhh.
Meh, I really don't see much difference between doing that and what the OP wants, and I think it's stretching a point to say "running it day in and day out" - it doesn't exactly sound like his friend expects to run an international group of companies on Win98 - just one "piano recording program". That's a niche requirement too.
If there's nothing available/acceptable except (1) not running it at all and (2) running it under Win98+VirtualBox, what's the big deal? It's not like the rest of us are going to catch something nasty and drop dead because of it.


His VirtualBox machine will be infected by a worm within (on average) 6 minutes.

Win98 is just not an acceptable OS for people to be running.



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29 Aug 2012, 6:17 pm

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His VirtualBox machine will be infected by a worm within (on average) 6 minutes.
Oh really? You've decided it will be networked, sans NAT and sans firewall? :?
The OP said nothing about networking it.

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Win98 is just not an acceptable OS for people to be running.
Nonsense. It depends very much on what someone intends doing with it and if running it stand-alone in a VirtualBox gets the job done, it's perfectly acceptable.


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29 Aug 2012, 9:24 pm

We're going to have to agree to disagree. I don't think it's acceptable to knowingly expose even a virtual machine to almost certain infection. He might disable networking, and he might not.