Steve Wozniak: Edward Snowden is 'a hero to me'

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27 May 2015, 11:36 am

Fortune.com wrote:
Steve Wozniak reaffirmed his staunch support for digital privacy in an interview over the weekend in which the Apple co-founder called National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden "a hero."

Wozniak, who helped build Apple ( AAPL ) with Steve Jobs before leaving the tech giant in the mid-1980s, has expressed an affinity for Snowden in the past. Over the weekend, Wozniak reiterated his admiration for Snowden in an interview with tech news site ITP.net in which the inventor said Snowden "gave up his own life ... to help the rest of us."

Wozniak went on to tell the publication more on his feelings about Snowden: "'Total hero to me; total hero,' he gushes. 'Not necessarily [for] what he exposed, but the fact that he internally came from his own heart, his own belief in the United States Constitution, what democracy and freedom was about. And now a federal judge has said that NSA data collection was unconstitutional.'..."

Fortune.com: "Steve Wozniak: Edward Snowden is 'a hero to me'" (May 26, 2015)
http://www.fortune.com/2015/05/26/steve ... rd-snowden


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31 May 2015, 3:24 pm

History will decide the man's reputation.

People call him a traitor, and indeed, he is.

However, do you owe loyalty to a nation that is doing something illegal?

Many forget that the "Founding Fathers" would have been remembered as traitors had they lost the revolution.



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31 May 2015, 3:37 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
...People call him a traitor, and indeed, he is....

I agree with your general sentiment, but in this particular statement, I believe that a recent commentary by University of Detroit-Mercy Associate Professor of Law J. Richard Broughton ( http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/201 ... nstitution ) which, according to TenthAmendmentCenter.com "states that the key requisite for an act to be considered treasonous is the intent to betray. Not just an act that, as some claim, 'gives aid to an enemy'" might teach us about the word "treason." Intent is a difficult thing to prove. And, in this case, it should be difficult.


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02 Jun 2015, 9:00 am

zer0netgain wrote:
People call him a traitor, and indeed, he is.

However, do you owe loyalty to a nation that is doing something illegal?


I don't agree that he is a traitor.

I don't believe that it is legal for officers of any branch of the United States Military or government to require US citizens to commit unconstitutional acts. Every oath in the armed forces begins with same pledge given by the President on inauguration:
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I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic

This obligation cannot be countermanded by the unlawful command of a superior, or because it seems expedient, convenient or operationally useful.

Many of the data collection and mining practices revealed by Snowden were clear violations of the Constitution, and just because Democrats like Obama and Republicans liked Bush (though most now pretend they didn't) that doesn't make their support of unconstitutional action by our intelligence services legal, ethical or acceptable.

We only know how bad the violations were and are because of Snowden. I believe he did more to defend the Constitution of the United States than Barrack Obama, George W. Bush and all those in the CIA, NSA, FBI, DIA, and other agencies whose work was exposed by Snowden.

I agree with the Woz on this one.

Edited to add: I think many in the US have conflated Edward Snowden and Julian Assange and think Snowden is responsible for the much more damaging leaks released in bulk by Chelsea Manning (then Bradley Manning) through Assange's wikileaks site.



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04 Jun 2015, 8:09 am

he should be considered a hero to everyone, the traitors are the ones who threatened to have him killed for exposing their crimes