Both Arctic and Antarctic sea ice levels...growing!! WTF?!

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In the Arctic...

"Between autumn 2010 and 2012, there was a 14% reduction in Arctic sea ice volume, in keeping with the long-term decline in extent. However, we observe 33% and 25% more ice in autumn 2013 and 2014, respectively, relative to the 2010–2012 seasonal mean, which offset earlier losses."

Source: Nature Geoscience 8,643–646(2015)doi:10.1038/ngeo2489
Published online
20 July 2015

http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v8/n8/full/ngeo2489.html

In the Antarctic ...

ANOTHER record HIGH amount of sea ice...

"According to the NSIDC:

Sea ice surrounding the Antarctic continent reached its maximum extent on September 22 at 20.11 million square kilometers (7.76 million square miles). This is 1.54 million square kilometers (595,000 square miles) above the 1981 to 2010 average extent, which is nearly four standard deviations above average. Antarctic sea ice averaged 20.0 million square kilometers (7.72 million square miles) for the month of September. This new record extent follows consecutive record winter maximum extents in 2012 and 2013. The reasons for this recent rapid growth are not clear. Sea ice in Antarctica has remained at satellite-era record high daily levels for most of 2014."

Source:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/09/we_have_more_to_learn_says_scientist_antarctic_sea_ice_at_all_time_record/

...and in the deepest Oceans...

"NASA Study Finds Earth’s Ocean Abyss Has Not Warmed

The cold waters of Earth’s deep ocean have not warmed measurably since 2005, according to a new NASA study, leaving unsolved the mystery of why global warming appears to have slowed in recent years."

Source:http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/october/nasa-study-finds-earth-s-ocean-abyss-has-not-warmed/


Hmmm....what on Earth could this mean?

Someone ask Mr. Gore.

Well yeah... that is what happens when ice melts...

El NINO?

You can argue about global warming but the undeniable fact is that glaciers are disappearing fast. There is no longer enough water from the glaciers to feed major rivers. That is a very serious practical problem, meaning lack of water supply and dying wild life such as the dolphin.

Whatever will happen, will happen. Won't it be great to have an ice-free, penguin-free, whale-free, coal-free, oil-free and forest-free Earth where you can grow grapes at the poles and olive trees in Scandinavia?

But wait...what about the data that supports "earth's warmest year ever," which seems to be every year.

This info seems to push the direction of climate change toward a glacial period, which I have conjectured might happen, rather than the opposite scenario. If the glaciers extend, you can bet that will halt a lot of this CO2 production. There will be less land inhabited then.

Have to wait a few more years to see if the ice sheets will extend on out.

Just think, if there is another ice age, many countries in the northern hemisphere will not be inhabitable. They will be covered in ice! Maybe a disruption in ocean currents is occurring right now? This would make places up north experience colder winters and so far, we have seen this.

This is a 5 yr old study, but it tries to explain why a sudden freeze is unlikely: Are we headed into a new ice age?

This one talks about how having no ice on earth is normal and we should welcome it with open arms: Everything you need to know about the ice ages of earth

I just think we need to learn how to live with the earth, rather than just on it. *shrug*

I never worry about the planet. She can take care of herself. It's us puny humans that we need to think about, lol. The earth will be here long after we're dust, a distant memory.
Animals come and go, too. If we're the ones killing them off, then we should stop that, but sometimes I feel like it's too arrogant of us to take the blame for something that may just be natural. Speaking of, the polar bears are doing just fine but I still see people posting about how they're dying off, rather than how there are more now than there were in the 1970's. I can't just take the word of some random post on facebook like so many others seem to...

The end of this age will be marked by the return of the Ice Giants.

We will give battle but we are fated to lose.

A slight look at the record will show that long before we thought so well of ourselves, such as 12,000 years ago, The Lesser Dryas Period was a 1500 year cold period, worldwide dust storm, and 8,000 years ago the green and fertile lands of North Africa, the Middle East, out to the forests of the Gobi, suddenly turned hot and dry, and have been desert since.

Rome was much warmer than today, but after they fell, in the year 705 the Black Sea and the Nile froze, which is the only time in the records they did. 1815 was the year without summer, with frosts in all the summer months.

Before WWI there were some monster Hurricanes that destroyed the Gulf Coast from Florida to Texas.

The 1930s were hot, dry, drought, dustbowl, massive tornados, for no provable reason.

Normal climate is baseball sized hail falling around a tornado, spawned by a Hurricane.

The hotter ocean has prevented hurricanes because upper level winds are formed that shear off the tops of storms.

Hotter air holds more water vapor till winter, when the water vapor becomes rain, snow, sleet, hail. Winter comes early and stays late.

Summer and Winter are at war, but they are also married. When one runs hot the other runs cold.

It is getting warmer, it is getting colder, but no trend has lasted more than a decade.

1.2F over the last 125 years is within the margin of error. The same data showed an ice age coming in the 70s.

Seems to be the end of glaciation as we know it, most arctic and antarctic animals will die out some might adapt and evolve and live on, many new species will emerge and the world will be much warmer with most areas being tropical, subtropical and temperate in the polar regions. One bright side of the ice all melting is it will bring more oxygen into the atmosphere, however the oxygen levels may be too high for us and we will be light headed until we adapt to it. This would be a good time to bring back dinosaurs perfect climate and oxygen level for them hehe!

Funny you should mention NSIDC: check out what's on their page right now--
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/