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30 Dec 2015, 12:52 pm

Does anyone here like shortwave radios? I own one and I think it'll be fun to share experiences



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30 Dec 2015, 7:14 pm

I'm a licensed amateur radio operator with privileges on the shortwave bands.

What do you need to know?



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30 Dec 2015, 8:08 pm

Picking up the numbers stations is fun.



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01 Jan 2016, 1:08 pm

I had an interest when I was younger, but could never get past the code requirement. Later, after the code requirement was dropped on most licenses, I'd permanently lost interest. I still am a SWL from time to time.



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02 Jan 2016, 1:52 pm

Dmac100 wrote:
Does anyone here like shortwave radios? I own one and I think it'll be fun to share experiences


Yeah, I liked listening to shortwave radio like 40 years ago, before the internet. Is it still popular?


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02 Jan 2016, 2:02 pm

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Does anyone here like shortwave radios? I own one and I think it'll be fun to share experiences
Yeah, I liked listening to shortwave radio like 40 years ago, before the internet. Is it still popular?
Very. Shortwave communications bypass the Internet, and make it less likely that your messages will be intercepted by some Internet-obsessed hacker-geek with a laptop, no friends, and too much time on his hands. Of course, if someone knows the exact time, frequency, and mode of your transmission, and if they have the right equipment, then they can listen in; but how many Internet-obsessed hacker-geeks are going to take the time and spend the money to buy the proper equipment when they can post sarcastic comments on any public website without even knowing what they're talking about?



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03 Jan 2016, 9:46 am

Our government and others, years ago, would regularly monitor the shortwave bands for "subversive" information (I used to secretly wish for one of their professional receivers). Have you heard if they (NSA?) are backing off due to the use of the internet?



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04 Jan 2016, 12:06 pm

I was never serious into it, but I was somehow surprised that my cheap pocket radio could pick up SW radio stations, although tuning up is not really intuitive (it has no numeric keypad, only a digital knob).



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04 Jan 2016, 3:09 pm

Both the FCC and the NSA still monitor ham radio. We're not allowed to send encrypted transmissions, and even our spread-spectrum technology is limited to any one of three legally-defined pseudo-prime number sequences.

CW, FM, RTTY, SS, SSB, and other modes may be incomprehensible to anyone who has only an AM receiver, and most people wouldn't be able to distinguish SSB from audio inversion technology - much less know how to turn them into ordinary audio.

CB, on the other hand, is mostly incomprehensible, especially on the single-digit channels.



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04 Jan 2016, 7:41 pm

I've had an interest in SW and own a very cheap Coby SW receiver which I will listen to once in a blue moon. A couple months ago I purchased a Baofeng UV-5r handheld transceiver and technically it's a ham radio but I utilize it for monitoring the local police, fire and EMS frequencies as it has enough memory to store 128 different channels and can scan (slowly) through the channels. It was $30 brand new and well worth the money paid for it. I believe it goes from 136-174 MHz and also has the UHF band with a range in the 400s. Also included is the FM music band (88-108) and a single bright LED to be used as a flashlight :)

Maybe someday I'll sit down and study to get a ham technician license.


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20 Jan 2016, 6:36 pm

Fnord wrote:
I'm a licensed amateur radio operator with privileges on the shortwave bands.

What do you need to know?


Do you know of a link that would state the ave. cost of equip., types of and levels of equip., cost of licensing, ave. time needed to learn different levels(I assume there are diff. levels :oops: )?

As you can tell, I know nothing about this topic :lol: :lol: :lol: , but I'd like to remedy that. :nerdy:

Thanks in advance. :D



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20 Jan 2016, 11:21 pm

On interesting thing out there is pirate radio, where amateurs regularly flaunt the FCC to put their own radio shows on the air. Some of these are amazingly creative blends of songs with hidden themes, or extensive radio drama. Some are just drunk people having fun.

This regularly shows up at 6925 or thereabouts. You can chase traffic at HF Underground:
http://www.hfunderground.com/board/inde ... d,3.0.html

And they also have a IRC channel on which you can find activity realtime, and sometimes chat with the DJ as they play. It's a regular thing, several nights a week. The sound quality is not awesome but the spirit is amazing. For many of them you need a sideband-capable radio. A small station can cover the USA easily.

I have heard number stations, but they are quite rare now. You can also track them on HF Underground. Basically anything that is off the beaten path on Shortwave will show up there. I don't get a lot of excitement from listening to Radio Cuba or Bulgaria, but will listen to a scratchy pirate over higher-quality music.


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20 Jan 2016, 11:23 pm

slave wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I'm a licensed amateur radio operator with privileges on the shortwave bands.

What do you need to know?


Do you know of a link that would state the ave. cost of equip., types of and levels of equip., cost of licensing, ave. time needed to learn different levels(I assume there are diff. levels :oops: )?

As you can tell, I know nothing about this topic :lol: :lol: :lol: , but I'd like to remedy that. :nerdy:

Thanks in advance. :D


Universal Radio is a good place to find radios, or just amazon.
http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable.html


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21 Jan 2016, 8:16 pm

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slave wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I'm a licensed amateur radio operator with privileges on the shortwave bands.

What do you need to know?


Do you know of a link that would state the ave. cost of equip., types of and levels of equip., cost of licensing, ave. time needed to learn different levels(I assume there are diff. levels :oops: )?

As you can tell, I know nothing about this topic :lol: :lol: :lol: , but I'd like to remedy that. :nerdy:

Thanks in advance. :D


Universal Radio is a good place to find radios, or just amazon.
http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable.html


Thanks for that. :D


What I'm looking for is a well-structured overview of the topic, so that when I have some appreciation of "the Whole" I can add the detail of "the Parts" later on.



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21 Jan 2016, 11:02 pm

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What I'm looking for is a well-structured overview of the topic, so that when I have some appreciation of "the Whole" I can add the detail of "the Parts" later on.
The "The ARRL Handbook for Radio Communications" is a good place to start.

Quote:
"The ARRL Handbook is widely used by radio amateurs as a reliable and highly-respected guide to station design, construction, modification, and repair. Introduced in 1926 as the 'Radio Amateur’s Handbook', each edition has remained true to this publishing legacy: a concise source of reference and information for applied radio electronics and experimentation. Chapter by chapter, you will discover the theory, practical information and construction details to expand your knowledge and skill as an Amateur Radio operator and experimenter. The book covers not only the fundamentals of radio electronics - analog and digital - but also practical circuit and antenna design, computer-aided design, digital operating modes, equipment troubleshooting, and reducing RF interference. Many projects and construction articles are included to help enhance your station and expand your participation as an active radio experimenter. Practical applications and solutions make The ARRL Handbook a must-have for hobbyists and technical professionals..."



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22 Jan 2016, 1:38 am

Fnord wrote:
slave wrote:
What I'm looking for is a well-structured overview of the topic, so that when I have some appreciation of "the Whole" I can add the detail of "the Parts" later on.
The "The ARRL Handbook for Radio Communications" is a good place to start.

Quote:
"The ARRL Handbook is widely used by radio amateurs as a reliable and highly-respected guide to station design, construction, modification, and repair. Introduced in 1926 as the 'Radio Amateur’s Handbook', each edition has remained true to this publishing legacy: a concise source of reference and information for applied radio electronics and experimentation. Chapter by chapter, you will discover the theory, practical information and construction details to expand your knowledge and skill as an Amateur Radio operator and experimenter. The book covers not only the fundamentals of radio electronics - analog and digital - but also practical circuit and antenna design, computer-aided design, digital operating modes, equipment troubleshooting, and reducing RF interference. Many projects and construction articles are included to help enhance your station and expand your participation as an active radio experimenter. Practical applications and solutions make The ARRL Handbook a must-have for hobbyists and technical professionals..."


Thanks! :D