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New battery powered car. Now on sale for only 92,000$ USD!

When I first saw the title I thought of a Tesla turbine or another of Tesla's inventions finally being implemented after a century....guess not.

It contains nearly a half-ton of Lithium-ion batteries. It is supposed to cut down on pollution. I wonder what would happen if one of those cars caught on fire...

http://news.com.com/Silicon+Valley+engi ... t.txt.caro

It would most likely explode if it caught fire

Or I can by a used, 12 cylinder, 1986 Ferrari Testerosa for $30,000, or a 4-cylinder EVO VIII RS for $27,000.

my question is instead of using batteries why don't they use a 2KF Supercapacitor and crank up the voltage to about 1500v so instead of 56KWh (201600000 j) you get 2250000000j (625KWh) from something that a lot lighter than 450Kg, also has the potential to double that if you put another in parallel.

Longevity. I'd do that if it were a drag-car, only having to go 1/4 of a Mile, but this thing goes 250 miles on a charge. But that would be interesting to do as a sort of "Nitrous" system for that car (I built one for a Radioshack Xmod. It gave it such a quick burst of speed that it ripped the tires apart if they weren't glued down!)

Lithium batteries are not the long term answer. Can't be easily disposed of.

Most, if not all, types of batteries cannot be disposed of easily

My idea for environmentally friendly propulsion is converting a diesel engine to run off cooking oil instead of diesel, it is possible to do it but let someone who knows what they are doing do it

An article in Popular Science for this month covers electric and hybrid automobilies. From the article, it looks like they are here, or will be, if you want one (and have the money to buy one). Toyota Prius (a hybrid gas-electric car) was covered, as was a Prius converted to run completely on battery, as was a completely battery powered car (25 cents "per gallon" mileage!), as was another hybrid gas-electric car being developed by GM. The article also discussed lithium ion batteries, which is what new electric automobiles will probably use.

Not only environmentally friendly, but car friendly too. The used cooking oil has proven itself in 1) engine longevity, 2) performance, and 3) ecofriendly. The used oil is far superior to diesel because of it's better lubricity. It lubricates the valves, fuel pumps, well, the whole top-end. That makes the engine last way longer. It has also proven to pack more stored energy than diesel, with the exception of the special synthetic diesel that Shell developed for Audi's R10 Le Mans car, which is powered by a 10-cylinder diesel. And it's environmentally sound, because it is free from sulfur and other trace elements. I want to run a SMART Fortwo roadster, which has a diesel 3 banger, on cooking oil. The ONLY problem I see, is obesity. The cars often smell of french fries and fried chicken. That can't be good to expose to the average American.

http://www.greasecar.com/

Actually looked into this awhile back...if I ever stumble across a VW diesel cheap enough for my budget I would probably consider it.

Sorry I didn't want to come across holier than though. We definitely need to solve this crisis but that will not be helped but people like green peace whose agenda is too inflexible and arbitrary. It depends on the application. I think a suped-up mobility scooter, will not do. They did not do anything that somebody hasn't of thought of. They thought mostly NO. They are just trying to cash into the green $ (£). But yes there is a problem storing heavy metal, a problem storing nuclear waste and most of all a problem storing carbon dioxide. But that doesn't mean we should necessarily do these things. We need to come up with the best solutions not the most popularist.

Prime example is if you want to buy a hybrid car consider what types of journeys you take. There is a VW diesel that is much more efficient for medium/long motorway journeys. Hybrid is good if you live in a city and travel average of 10 miles per hour most of the time. But then you have a scooter, if you don’t need to carry anything big. In london I don't really need a car at all. As much as it has complained about the underground is pretty good compared to the roads. Well it is the most extensive metropolitan railway in the world. They use a dc (4 rail) system with shunt wound induction motors or 3 phase (that's what causes the jolty start and occasional stall if it is not timed it right). Even above ground it is quite rare to get failure of power on the tracks, just sparks.

My original Idea in the post was that all of those batteries would pollute a lot more than current cars, even if only a few of the got damaged in accidents, they would have to be replaces every 100k miles. Anything made out of newer materials is going to take a lot more resources to build, including new hybrid. All those complex lightweight plastics, and batteries. Those cars will probably not last as long as most cars and are a lot more dangerous to dispose of. A lot of devices that I have read about that pollute less during their useful lifetime, end up polluting as much or more during the manufacturing and disposal process.

Efficient lower-tech standardized parts that don't break as often are the best option. My 1992 Nissan Sentra gets 37.5 mpg (over the last 3000 miles) and only cost me 1200$. My previous 1988 Nissan Sentra that I sold was at 240k miles and still ran good. It also got around 36mpg and cost me 500$ when I bought it. When needs those expensive hybrids anyway. If I had a little more resources and time I could hook up an electric motor to my car and get close to what those hybrids get for under a thousand dollars. More research should be done before trying to mass produce the current hybrids and electric cars.

Those cars running on vegetable oil could not be used in high quantities because there's not enough resources.

Greenpeace is like any other political party that has power. After it gains some power in the government, it is then becomes a political "magnet" and is soon taken over by greedy people wanting to make money. Many parties even started this way. The person who started greenpeace left it because of this. The best safest option in the foreseeable future in nuclear fission. Greenpeace is against this too....

Here's the idea I had on a hybrid car. Gives people the effect of high horsepower when accelerating and uses less gas when driving. And it doesn't need a lot of batteries.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... ht=#642732

Sure, but do you really want to deal with the cost of maintainance and upkeep on one?

If I could afford one,I'd just retofit a VW Jetta TDI to run on filtered fryolator grease.

I don't think any Tesla Roadsters ever caught fire. And the Model S fires were all caused by accidents, AFAIK. EVs are proving safer than driving around with a tank full of gasoline. Well, who would have ever guessed that .

If you buy a cheap supercar, you'll end up buying a clunker that's hardly running. Take a look at Top Gear's "Budget Supercar" challenge. Never mind the fact that you can't casually buy spare parts for a Ferrari Testarossa on eBay, and that servicing a car with an MR layout is both expensive and difficult. Maybe if you're lucky, you can find a Ferrari 412 or Mondial in an OK condition for that price.

There is a huge price difference between a good EVO VIII RS and a bad one. The cheap one has typically been owned by someone who maxed out his loan to get it. furthermore, said person probably haven't bothered with regular oil change intervals, rust-proofing, and so on. Ditto for cheap Audi RS cars, cheap Porsche Boxsters and so on.

Edit: Just realized I was quoting a post from 2007.

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