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06 Dec 2020, 1:50 pm

A peculiar 'X' shaped object which NASA dubbed P/2010 A2 was discovered a few months ago.



Looks like a Klingon bird of prey.

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06 Dec 2020, 1:59 pm

Was it anything to do with this?





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06 Dec 2020, 6:49 pm

Asteroid.  The cruciform image is the result of debris from an impact with another asteroid.

That is all.

Nothing more to see.

Move along.



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06 Dec 2020, 7:19 pm

Or ponder for awhile the ramifications.


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06 Dec 2020, 7:31 pm

Or go read your comic books and leave the pondering to the experts.



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07 Dec 2020, 9:20 am

Fnord wrote:
Or go read your comic books and leave the pondering to the experts.


My comic book days ended around 55 years ago.


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07 Dec 2020, 12:51 pm

jimmy m wrote:
Or ponder for awhile the ramifications.


A technical term for a male sheep caught in the act?


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09 Dec 2020, 11:27 am

Hubble has discovered a mysterious X-shaped object traveling at 11,000mph. NASA says that P/2010-A2 may be a comet, product of the collision between two asteroids. Or a Klingon Bird of Prey. Either way, UCLA investigator David Jewitt is excited:

This is quite different from the smooth dust envelopes of normal comets. The filaments are made of dust and gravel, presumably recently thrown out of the nucleus. Some are swept back by radiation pressure from sunlight to create straight dust streaks. Embedded in the filaments are co-moving blobs of dust that likely originated from tiny unseen parent bodies.

OK, David, we will believe you until Jerry Bruckheimer finish his next movie, in which a "comet" suddenly stops, turns to Earth, and starts firing anti-matter rays against our underpants.

The weirdest thing, however, is not only the prettyful X-shaped debris pattern, but the fact that its 460-foot-wide nucleus is outside the dust halo and separated from the trail. This behavior is something which has never been seen before in a comet or any other solar-system-swooshing object.

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Source: Hubble Detects Mysterious Spaceship-Shaped Object Traveling at 11,000MPH


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09 Dec 2020, 11:47 am

jimmy m wrote:
Hubble has discovered a mysterious X-shaped object traveling at 11,000mph. NASA says that P/2010-A2 may be a comet, product of the collision between two asteroids. Or a Klingon Bird of Prey. Either way, UCLA investigator David Jewitt is excited:

This is quite different from the smooth dust envelopes of normal comets. The filaments are made of dust and gravel, presumably recently thrown out of the nucleus. Some are swept back by radiation pressure from sunlight to create straight dust streaks. Embedded in the filaments are co-moving blobs of dust that likely originated from tiny unseen parent bodies.

OK, David, we will believe you until Jerry Bruckheimer finish his next movie, in which a "comet" suddenly stops, turns to Earth, and starts firing anti-matter rays against our underpants.

The weirdest thing, however, is not only the prettyful X-shaped debris pattern, but the fact that its 460-foot-wide nucleus is outside the dust halo and separated from the trail. This behavior is something which has never been seen before in a comet or any other solar-system-swooshing object.

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Source: Hubble Detects Mysterious Spaceship-Shaped Object Traveling at 11,000MPH



Isn't that the Planet X that was talked about a year or two ago?


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09 Dec 2020, 1:37 pm

cute.

Instead of finding planet X we find a planetessimal shaped like an "X".



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09 Dec 2020, 3:36 pm

if there were a planet x where they think it oughta be, to see it would require something as powerful as an observatory telescope AND time-exposure, binoculars need not apply.



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09 Dec 2020, 3:48 pm

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... Instead of finding planet X we find a planetessimal shaped like an "X".
No, the planetesimal is the white dot to the lower left of the X-shaped debris field.



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09 Dec 2020, 3:59 pm

Ok. But somehow the trail of debris maintains an X shape.



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09 Dec 2020, 4:25 pm

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Ok. But somehow the trail of debris maintains an X shape.
Why should it change its pattern?  There is no air in space to slow down the less massive particles.  If anything, they will all continue to disperse from the center of impact and eventually form no apparent pattern at all.

Seeing patterns where none exist is called "Pareidolia" -- the tendency for incorrect perception of a stimulus as an object, pattern or meaning known to the observer, such as seeing shapes in clouds, seeing faces in inanimate objects or abstract patterns, or hearing hidden messages in music.

'Tis only this, and nothing more.



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09 Dec 2020, 6:40 pm

Fnord wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Ok. But somehow the trail of debris maintains an X shape.
Why should it change its pattern?  There is no air in space to slow down the less massive particles.  If anything, they will all continue to disperse from the center of impact and eventually form no apparent pattern at all.

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Exactly..they should disperse apart and loose the pattern. But they dont and it doesnt. Also typical comets shed vapor and dust from the planetesimal itself. There is every reason it should form a halo around the main little body and form a trail away from the Sun leading out from that halo. But it doesnt.



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09 Dec 2020, 7:15 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Fnord wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Ok. But somehow the trail of debris maintains an X shape.
Why should it change its pattern?  There is no air in space to slow down the less massive particles.  If anything, they will all continue to disperse from the center of impact and eventually form no apparent pattern at all.
Exactly..they should disperse apart and loose the pattern. But they dont and it doesn't.
And you can tell this from the only photograph you have ever seen?  It has changed in the last 10 years.  Here is the original, and three subsequent images below it.  Note the dates.

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Also typical comets shed vapor and dust from the planetesimal itself. There is every reason it should form a halo around the main little body and form a trail away from the Sun leading out from that halo. But it doesnt.
Comets from beyond the "Frost Line" behave as you say, but this one seem to have a smaller orbit -- most of its volatiles have already sublimated.