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What do you Linux fanatics think of Windows 7?
I like it 38%  38%  [ 9 ]
It sucks 50%  50%  [ 12 ]
I'll say that it sucks even though it may be good 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 24

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05 Aug 2009, 11:44 pm

What do you Linux fanatics think of Windows 7?



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06 Aug 2009, 2:26 am

Well as a Linux user I see windows 7 dose have a few good improvements from all the other windows version and I think Microsoft may be starting to go into the right direction. I wont be surprised if it caches on like 3.1, 98, or XP. To finish off I would have to see allot more work done before I think about switching back to windows. For now it will satisfy those who do not wish to seek further education on a operating system and programs not taut in school.



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06 Aug 2009, 3:53 am

Pardon, But I didnt vote.

You see, I downloaded the beta. I even installed it on virtual box on my brothers linux computer(so he could consider switching from vista on his other computer), and I attempted to virtualbox it on my sisters computer, but it wouldnt boot the disk.

So I havent actually tried it. Not enough to vote fairly.

I dont think its going to feature any functions that I cannot get out of Linux, and the issue of price is not an barrier. I spent years buying software before switching to linux. I could continue to do so if I chose.

For me, the real issue is the Microsoft practice of imposing sanctions upon legitimate customers(you and I), such as limited licencing, with the eventual need to phone them and beg for another use. Or buy again.

I resent their permissiveness in letting companies such as adobe through my firewall.

I resent their deliberate effort to restrict compatibility between software programs(I mean adhering to standards such as html and css, and such). Ford motor company and Chevrolet both agree that a 10mm bolt is a ten millimeter bolt, and so do craftsman, powerfist, snap-on, and most everyone else involved in tool manufacture and use. Standards are good.


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06 Aug 2009, 3:59 am

Windows 7 will be a nice improvement over Vista. I'm not exactly a purist, though; I use whichever will allow me to complete specific tasks in the most effective manner.



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06 Aug 2009, 6:13 am

I voted "it sucks" because of the difficulty of installing it a second time. Wouldnt read the disk!

Only to find I am only the third person to vote!

Vote people!


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06 Aug 2009, 9:48 am

Neither the beta nor the RC would boot on my machine. (May have been a problem with using the 64-bit version, but I only use 64-bit operating systems) I got it partially working in a virtual machine. From what I've observed on other people's machines, Windows 7 is basically just a refinement of Vista. Benchmarks don't put it that far ahead of Vista in performance, but since a few years have past and people are using better hardware it will feel faster. Some extra polish was added and a couple new features were introduced, but it's really nothing that groundbreaking.

I never really tried Windows at all until last year (after starting Linux) and none of my looking around Vista or XP turned up any compelling reason to stick with it.


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08 Aug 2009, 12:28 pm

I tried voting, and it didn't work. Had to page back...;) Must be those rapscallions in Redmond...;)

I have reservations about installing an OS with a 'drop dead' date...;)



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08 Aug 2009, 7:00 pm

Its mac all the way for me, winblows frustrates the hell out of me with its virus magnet bloated, slow pain in the arse logic.



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09 Aug 2009, 8:00 am

I don't think much of it. I don't mean that in the sense that I think it's crappy, I mean I literally am not thinking about it much. I use something else, so I really don't need to think about it at all.


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09 Aug 2009, 9:54 am

Can you change the font in the 'DOS' boxes? Could I have a cmd with Bitstream Vera Sans Mono sizee 16?

If no, it sucks!


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10 Aug 2009, 3:48 am

LostInEmulation wrote:
Can you change the font in the 'DOS' boxes? Could I have a cmd with Bitstream Vera Sans Mono sizee 16?

If no, it sucks!


You can change the font , the size (maximum size 76)

so what now ?



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10 Aug 2009, 4:34 am

Considering the latest release of W7 is a RTC instead of RTM, it's almost a pointless thread. The RTM is the final release. Although sometimes I wonder if this is what MS had in mind for the last version of 6 so they could make this one better by deliberately holding things out



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10 Aug 2009, 5:19 am

I voted I like it - at the very least, it's nice to see the 800-pound gorilla listening to its customers. And delivering what, by the reports, is an improvement. A hefty price-tag, for delivering what it promised the last time, but an improvement.

The best I've managed so far is an installation of the release candidate in a VirtualBox in a Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope. I'd run out of weekend by that time, and shortly thereafter I embarked on an ill-fated attempt to restore from a 2007 release disk set and surviving through the upgrades of a Vista Ultimate. Don't try that at home, listeners, lest your sanity buckle.

When the release comes out, I'll ask about the upgrade cost from the Vista Ultimate. And from the Vista Home Premium my partner's overpowered Dell suffers under.



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18 Aug 2009, 3:54 am

I can't tolerate viruses caused by them forcing software to run on a writable disk.
And I wouldn't pay hundreds of units of currency just to be forced to agree to a
EULA that says I can't do something with my own machines when free software
doesn't pull that kind of crap. And apparently independent Windows programmers
now must pay Microsoft $70,000 just to ask for permission to sell one of their own
programs. So what kind of software do you expect? Do people pay so much
for a license to be creative? $70,000 saved is $70,000 earned, so there's more
incentive to NOT do anything cool with Windows. It must be worse with 64-bit,
because there seems to be so much less available for it.



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18 Aug 2009, 4:34 am

peterd wrote:
I embarked on an ill-fated attempt to restore from a 2007 release disk set and surviving through the upgrades of a Vista Ultimate. Don't try that at home, listeners, lest your sanity buckle.


Next time, note the upgrade files, and download them, then you can install them without having to spend hours downloading and restarting



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27 Aug 2009, 9:22 am

Zand wrote:
For now it will satisfy those who do not wish to seek further education on a operating system and programs not taut in school.


What kind of holier-than-thou nonsense is that? Typical anti-Microsoft viewpoints. People who work within the Windows space aren't "lesser" people for that choice. Some of them may do so because they don't know there are other operating systems out there, but then others like myself use Windows out of a deliberate choice. It's my job, it's my profession, and I'm going to make damned sure that I be the best possible Windows admin that I can. So for someone to claim that my choice not to use Linux is failing to "seek further education" is just downright insulting.

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From what I've observed on other people's machines, Windows 7 is basically just a refinement of Vista.


Then perhaps you need to refine your observational skills. Windows 7 isn't "just" anything, it's an evolution that's built on everything that has come before it.

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Some extra polish was added and a couple new features were introduced, but it's really nothing that groundbreaking.


And that shows that you clearly don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. Windows 7 is not "extra police and a couple {of} new features". Perhaps you could take it upon yourself to actually learn something about what you offer an opinion on, rather than just spout whatever comes into your head?

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I voted "it sucks" because of the difficulty of installing it a second time. Wouldnt read the disk!


Well *that's* a mature outlook. Would your favourite band "suck" if you couldn't play their CD one day? Seriously, what a pathetic reason to cast a vote.

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Its mac all the way for me, winblows frustrates the hell out of me with its virus magnet bloated, slow pain in the arse logic.


And why would you assume that people would take any notice of what you have to say when you use derogatory remarks like "winblows"? It just shows that you're not even *interested* in taking a fair and unbiased look.

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apparently independent Windows programmers now must pay Microsoft $70,000 just to ask for permission to sell one of their own programs.


And apparently you don't have a clue, but it doesn't stop you from coming up with what can only be described as "complete BS".

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It must be worse with 64-bit, because there seems to be so much less available for it.


It *must* be? Why? Because you were so accurate with your last comment? Good god.

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All I can say is that the thread title is aptly named. "Linux fanatics" eh?

Fanatic: "a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm" according to Google's inbuilt dictionary. Or Princeton Uni's "wordnetweb" says "fanaticism - excessive intolerance of opposing views".

Never a better example than this thread.

Grow up. Windows isn't the OS for everyone. Neither is MacOS, Linux, or any other OS out there. That's what's great about it. We all have a *choice* and it's only the immature and insecure who have a need to put down the OSes that they haven't chosen.