Luna Lovegood choosen
I know alot of people (myself included) consider her to be an aspie so I just though I should post this, judging by the pics she could be an aspie or at least able to act like one (its so hard to tell by the pics.) Well here they are...
http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_ ... _lynch.jpg
http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_ ... sround.jpg
http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_ ... lease1.jpg
theres another one with her with her having drawn on HP glasses that makes her look really aspiesh but I cant find it anywhere .
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I think she'll be a good Luna. I don't think that Luna has AS, but I don't think that she is typical at all. Hermione (book Hermione, more than movie Hermione) seems to have more AS traits. Actually, quite a lot of characters in the series don't seem to be entirely NT. Also, from what I've observed in interviews and what she has said about her own personality, it seems that J.K. Rowling has quite a lot of AS traits!
I disagree; I don't think any of the characters are supremely Aspie in that story EXCPET Luna. Hermione is just a workaholic, maybe obsessive-compulsive personality disorder if anything (if you must label it- and it's a different thing than OCD)
Anyway by the shots she looks like a good choice.
I don't agree with the whole "Luna is an aspie" thing either. Yes, maybe she has some traits that could be associated with AS, but they don't have to be. To me they just seem like "rebellious geek" traits. Of course, I'm generally of the opinion that if a fictional character wasn't written to be an aspie, then they're not an aspie.
Sophist brought up the possibility of scizotypal personality disorder (if that's wrong, I'm misquoting it) and that fits even better than Aspie. But Luna's defnitely an "odd one."

Perhaps not Aspie, but maybe autistic. It doesn't matter which one, because Aspie or Autie, there are people like Luna who are autistic/AS. Sophist brought up schizotypal personality disorder, but what you also have to remember is that they can look very similar. You can't say for sure she is or isn't autistic, because we haven't been told very much about her, and we only know her by the way she acts. If she had tactile sensitivities or other stuff, we wouldn't hesitate to say she is autistic. Perhaps she does. Do I remember correctly that Luna often wears earmuffs? Perhaps she has sound sensitivity. I was very like Luna as a kid, and still am, very much. Don't let the fact that she believes a lot of stuff from her father's newspaper fool you, either. There's a lot of adult people that love kids stuff like that. Nor is she the exactly the brightest, so that might play a part. Delayed cognitive development, hmm? Schizotypal personality disorder just doesn't fit. She might believe some far out stuff, but she's not paranoid, there's no evidence of hallucinations, de-personalization or derealization. Really, the only evidence that supports SPD is that she has odd beliefs or magical thinking. The second really can't apply because magic (in the books) does exist! There are a lot more indicators pointing towards autism than anything else. We should list them.
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She believes in stuff most magic folk don't, though.
Yes, but that doesn't make her schizotypal. What was that thread about odd beliefs autistics have? http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... pic&t=5898
Luna's not the only one.
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I've noticed the main criteria for being an aspie on many of these forums seems to be high IQ. But, isn't the main trait of an aspie a lack of social symmetry with others? And, Luna certainly seems to come from a different planet in that regard!
In fact, consider the WikiPedia. If you consider that an authoratitive source, then note that there is no reference in the diagnostic criteria for AS referring to IQ. Here is the link..
I'll list them here as well:
DSM-IV 229.80:
Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
- Marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction.
- Failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level.
-A lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people).
- A lack of social or emotional reciprocity.
Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
- Encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal in either intensity or focus.
- Apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals.
- Stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting or complex whole-body movements).
- Persistent preoccupation with parts of objects.
The disturbance causes clinically significant impairments in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age two years, communicative phrases used by age three years).
There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills or adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
Christopher Gillberg has a definition as well:
Severe impairment in reciprocal social interaction (at least two of the following)
- inability to interact with peers
- lack of desire to interact with peers
- lack of appreciation of social cues
- socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior
All-absorbing narrow interest (at least one of the following)
- exclusion of other activities
- repetitive adherence
- more rote than meaning
Imposition of routines and interests (at least one of the following)
- on self, in aspects of life
- on others
Speech and language problems (at least three of the following)
- delayed development
- superficially perfect expressive language
- formal, pedantic language
- odd prosody, peculiar voice characteristics
- impairment of comprehension including misinterpretations of literal/implied meanings
Non-verbal communication problems (at least one of the following)
- limited use of gestures
- clumsy/gauche body language
- limited facial expression
- inappropriate expression
- peculiar, stiff gaze
Motor clumsiness: poor performance on neurodevelopmental examination
Nowhere in there does it say the person must have an above average IQ. An obsessive preoccupation with something does not necessarily lead to unusual ability with that something. Perhaps it is the association with Einstein that makes people assume that being brilliant is a required trait? Einstein /may/ have had AS, but that does not follow that all people who have AS will become equal to Einstein. Aspies /tend/ to have extreme gifts in one or more areas, but a tendency is not an absolute. Based on this, could Luna (or, George Bush, as I talked about in another thread) possibly represent someone with AS?
It's possible GW Bush is autistic, but highly unlikely. Luna has a lot more evident traits than George does. Of course, high IQ isn't required for being Aspie. The only IQ requirement, really, is lack of mental retardation.
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I knew a girl who exactly matched Luna's description in look and behavior. Couple years ago I even fell in love with her, but she has changed a lot and now we cannot stand each other. Nevertheless, I had perfect Luna's model when I was reading the book.
Honestly, I've never seen the movie, but after I saw the third Evanna's picture, I immediately recognized the girl I've lost. Oh god, the same eyes, the same smile.... I'm impressed. For me, they selected the perfect Luna.