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17 Dec 2012, 8:43 am

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[i]Chinatown
The Graduate
Jerry Maguire
West Side Story
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
A Clockwork Orange


Blasphemy! :D


The rape and the 'treatment' scenes bothered me too much.


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17 Dec 2012, 1:59 pm

KyleTheGhost wrote:
LexingtonDeville wrote:
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[i]Chinatown
The Graduate
Jerry Maguire
West Side Story
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
A Clockwork Orange


Blasphemy! :D


The rape and the 'treatment' scenes bothered me too much.


Yeah, it's controversial, but i still think it's a cult classic. And it's in #7 in my top 10 list.


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18 Dec 2012, 2:59 am

Matrix

Sorry but i never got it. Ok, so there are people always wearing sunglasses and so on, the word is at the edge of doom but most of them seem only to be interested to have matching outfits and posing as if they are having a photo shooting.

I mean, yeah sure.... "Oh my God, we are all gonna die because...." - "Thanks that you told me in time, so i have time to look for an new outfit i can wear for saving the world. Do you think the eyeglasses are matching with the shoes? And what do you think of my pose? Do you think it is better to safe the world while doing that pose or do you thing this is the better one?"

Or when it comes to their sanctuarium (However it was called.) so do they shoot everyone who is not between 18 and 30 years old and attractive or are they hidden somewhere in a cellar below?

And all that pseudophilosophy talk. Nietzsche and Kant would kill themselfs in shame, if they knew that someone would refer to the matrix dialogues as "deep psychology. O_o

So the first one i watched in television some years after, and it was an pretty normal actionfilm. So my friends were hyping around when the second film was released, and we watched it in cinema and it was soooo boring. There was a action szene without any sense, just to show some computer tricks, and it never ended end after 20 minutes when nothing else happened but special effects i slept away in the cinema. (no sarcasm)

So i tried it again when the second and the third film came into television but its just that boring, that senseless pseudopsychological talk, that useless posing and focusing on outfits, the long period when nothing happens and you have to wait until the story goes on, until they think that they have showed you enought special effects now....

I know, there are so many people who love it, and i really tried but i never managed to watch the second or third film until the end.



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18 Dec 2012, 2:54 pm

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Matrix

Sorry but i never got it. Ok, so there are people always wearing sunglasses and so on, the word is at the edge of doom but most of them seem only to be interested to have matching outfits and posing as if they are having a photo shooting.

I mean, yeah sure.... "Oh my God, we are all gonna die because...." - "Thanks that you told me in time, so i have time to look for an new outfit i can wear for saving the world. Do you think the eyeglasses are matching with the shoes? And what do you think of my pose? Do you think it is better to safe the world while doing that pose or do you thing this is the better one?"

Or when it comes to their sanctuarium (However it was called.) so do they shoot everyone who is not between 18 and 30 years old and attractive or are they hidden somewhere in a cellar below?

And all that pseudophilosophy talk. Nietzsche and Kant would kill themselfs in shame, if they knew that someone would refer to the matrix dialogues as "deep psychology. O_o

So the first one i watched in television some years after, and it was an pretty normal actionfilm. So my friends were hyping around when the second film was released, and we watched it in cinema and it was soooo boring. There was a action szene without any sense, just to show some computer tricks, and it never ended end after 20 minutes when nothing else happened but special effects i slept away in the cinema. (no sarcasm)

So i tried it again when the second and the third film came into television but its just that boring, that senseless pseudopsychological talk, that useless posing and focusing on outfits, the long period when nothing happens and you have to wait until the story goes on, until they think that they have showed you enought special effects now....

I know, there are so many people who love it, and i really tried but i never managed to watch the second or third film until the end.


If it is any consolation, there are quite a few fans of the first film who do not care at all for Reloaded and Revolutions, and for pretty much the exact reasons you name, at that.


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18 Dec 2012, 3:32 pm

Most overrated movie EVER: AVATAR

Been there, done that. It was called Pocahontas, the Smurfs, and Fern Gully. Eat s**t, James Cameron.

Oh yeah, Matrix was pretty damn overrated too. Actually, you know what? most movies are overrated bs.



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18 Dec 2012, 4:02 pm

A Christmas Story...no wonder our nation's IQ has gone down... -.-



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18 Dec 2012, 6:38 pm

DerStadtschutz wrote:
Most overrated movie EVER: AVATAR

Been there, done that. It was called Pocahontas, the Smurfs, and Fern Gully. Eat sh**, James Cameron.

Oh yeah, Matrix was pretty damn overrated too. Actually, you know what? most movies are overrated bs.


Most movies these days don't have original plots, everything feels like it has been done before. But really, if the movie is done well that isn't an issue. I still found the movie entertaining even if it was just a sci-fi version of Dances with Wolves or The Last Samurai, James Cameron is still a talented filmmaker and made a good movie.


Also regarding The Matrix, the vast majority of Matrix fans don't like the sequels, because they were steaming piles of crap and they will readily admit that. The first is still an entertaining action flick though.



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19 Dec 2012, 9:58 am

I also enjoyed Avatar a great deal, and while I can see how its plot harkens back to other movies, I feel as though the 'humans are the bad guys' in a sci-fi invasion story isn't done all that often, especially not in Hollywood blockbusters. I mean, I'm certain there have been many writers of sci-fi who have written stories where human beings travel to other planets to exploit and enslave the local people, but in pop culture, it's usually the aliens doing the invading. Avatar, to me, felt fresh for turning that upside down.


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19 Dec 2012, 12:22 pm

CyclopsSummers wrote:
I also enjoyed Avatar a great deal, and while I can see how its plot harkens back to other movies, I feel as though the 'humans are the bad guys' in a sci-fi invasion story isn't done all that often, especially not in Hollywood blockbusters. I mean, I'm certain there have been many writers of sci-fi who have written stories where human beings travel to other planets to exploit and enslave the local people, but in pop culture, it's usually the aliens doing the invading. Avatar, to me, felt fresh for turning that upside down.


The problem is the plot of Avatar was nothing more than the story of Pocahontas set in a sci-fi setting.



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19 Dec 2012, 12:30 pm

MacDragard wrote:
CyclopsSummers wrote:
I also enjoyed Avatar a great deal, and while I can see how its plot harkens back to other movies, I feel as though the 'humans are the bad guys' in a sci-fi invasion story isn't done all that often, especially not in Hollywood blockbusters. I mean, I'm certain there have been many writers of sci-fi who have written stories where human beings travel to other planets to exploit and enslave the local people, but in pop culture, it's usually the aliens doing the invading. Avatar, to me, felt fresh for turning that upside down.


The problem is the plot of Avatar was nothing more than the story of Pocahontas set in a sci-fi setting.
General stories in most movies aren't original. Try looking at your favorites and think of other movies before that that had the same general plot.

The problem with argument that it's unoriginal is that it doesn't hold up very well. It's all in the way it's told. Artwork, characters, some of the other things that happen during the film. It's all presentation of the story. That's how many movies are, if not all. They all tell the same story with a very unique way of doing it. It makes the same story fresher.



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07 Jan 2013, 10:35 am

All of the Twilight movies



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07 Jan 2013, 4:43 pm

Prometheus: Really WTF?!



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07 Jan 2013, 5:15 pm

Moulin Rouge
Amelie
Before Sunrise
Slumdog Millionaire
Trainspotting


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07 Jan 2013, 7:56 pm

28 Days Later

Juno

Napoleon Dynamite

Clerks

The Rocky Horror Picture Show

Star Wars {the prequel trilogy}

Star Wars {the original trilogy}

300

Crash {Not the Cronenberg movie, the one with the racist cop played by Matt Dillon}

Transformers

Hostel

Alien

Dances With Wolves

Twilight {and the Twilight sequels}


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13 Jan 2013, 3:32 am

Alien overrated? Your having a laugh, right? Here is my revised list...

Avatar
The Harry Potter movies
Fight Club
There Will Be Blood
Bridesmaids
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Twilight movies
Dances with Wolves
Black Swan
Tree of Life


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13 Jan 2013, 8:19 am

No country for old men
Promethius or what ever it called
300 which was terrible but not as bad as that other Frank Miller film he directed no idea what was going on.
Juno - whole film was annoying.
Date movie and others like it.

I can not think of any others.