Like movies against popular opinion

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Ever feel like you are the odd one out in liking a movie? The thought has been on my mind recently for a few reasons, and I decided to bring it up because I just decided to re-watch the movie Prometheus, which seems to receive a lot of hate but really that bad at all. People say that the movie has a lot of plot holes, and I kind of felt a bit guilty that I did not see the problems in the movie. And when I recently saw video online that answered the problems people had with the movie and explained it logically and realized I had mostly the same thoughts, I realized that I had nothing to be ashamed of. There are others that think it is a good movie despite the popular opinion. Like lots of people complain that too much does not make sense in the movie, but my opinions is that there are logical explanations, and parts that were not specifically explained were in keeping with the franchise's use of alien mystery that you have to try and understand yourself.

Another example would be that I don't see the popular problem against the Star Wars prequels. Yeah the original movies had their charm, but I am actually quite fond of what was done in the prequels. In fact I prefer the prequels to the originals, which probably would have most people trying to take away my geek credentials.

This is not just me having poor taste as despite being a fan of sci-fi, I recently did not like the movies Elysium or Lockout, seeing them filled with plot holes.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes the Star Wars prequels, though I do still like the originals better.

I used to be absolutely obsessed with the 2010 Alice in Wonderland movie, despite most people citing it as an example of Tim Burton losing his touch (to put it mildly). Now that it is no longer one of my special interests, I have mixed feelings about the sequel that is due to be released in 2016. Maybe by that time the original will have become a special interest again and then I can appreciate the sequel. There's no telling with the way my mind works

Speaking of Tim Burton movies, I used to be similarly obsessed with the 2005 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie, which pretty much everyone hated due to nostalgia for the Gene Wilder version. I thought Burton's version was hysterical and quoted Depp's Wonka on a daily basis.

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Tim Burton is good. I thought that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, I loved the new take on Wonka. I would say that although I liked parts of the Alice movie, I kind of did not let myself be drawn in, maybe because the Mad Hatter looked so interesting. I can't quite remember reasons.

As for special interests, the Alien and Predator movies are a little bit of mine, something that came after I saw AVP, although I see the faults in things like Alien Resurrection or Colonial Marines. The franchises are pretty well thought of, but it kind of baffles me when general opinion is that Prometheus is a betrayal, when I felt it was pretty much what was good about the thing that grabbed my attention.

Prometheus gets hate for several reasons. Here are several:

-They artificially created mysteries to be resolved in the sequel, by editing out information that was in the original script.
-The scientists act like idiots, ignoring basic quarantine procedures at several points, and exposing themselves to alien pathogens.
-We have no idea why the creators are upset with mankind
-Charlize Theron dies in an idiotic and unnecessary way, thus eliminating one of two interesting characters from the sequel.
-Shaw's beliefs make no sense. She believes both that the creator aliens created humanity, and the biblical creation accounts are true. These explanations are mutually exclusive.
-The movie insinuated that atheists are like robots.

I am fond of 'Phantom Menace', and rather controversially, it's the movie I've enjoyed most out of all three prequel movies (with Sith coming in second, and Clones third). I originally failed to see the ethnic stereotypes in Jar-Jar, despite being of Caribbean descent myself! When I saw Phantom Menace, I thought he was a funnier comic relief than C3PO and R2D2.

For me, a movie I like a lot against popular opinion, is Sucker Punch. I understand how people can see a sexist undercurrent or overtones in it (though I would say that calling it 'misogynistic' would be taking it a tad too far, and doesn't gel with what I've read from Zac Snyder in general), and I don't think it was executed brilliantly, but I do think that the protagonists were portrayed respectfully for the most part, as girls who were at the same time strong and determined, but also flawed because of the psychological strain that their young lives had put on them thus far. The CGI eye candy didn't always work for me, especially in the giant samurai scene with Baby Doll solo, and the fight against the robots on the train, but it was nevertheless an interesting stylistic choice of Snyder, and the fantasy battle sequences contrasted nicely with the somber colours of the brothel sequences. Ultimately, I don't think that it's a movie that should be measured against the greatest films of all time. It's not trying to be Inception, it's not trying to be The Matrix. It tells its story with its characters, it's not without its flaws, but it can be an enjoyable ride if you're in the mood for it.

I thought both of those movies were enjoyable. Not deep or truly new, but playful and with a few twists. The point of a remake is to reinterpret an old film, not recreate it with modern actors.

Ridley Scott always planned that mysteries would be solved in a sequel.


The helmets were advanced enough that they could pick up if there were pathogens, in fact right before they take their helmets off they explicitly say this. The reason the biologist got so friendly with the Hammerpede yet afraid of Mala'kak (Engineers) bodies is by figuring out what kind of biologist he was, mainly that he must have dealt mainly with small animals and he had not reason to believe that it could harm him while he was in his suit.


Isn't this just like the original Alien, where motives are unknown, it is kind of what makes them alien? Figuring out is part of the point and thinking you need all your answers straight away is something that seems to have happened to us since information is so ready to us now. Theorise you can think for yourself is that humans were created in the first place to test, they possibly planned from the beginning to be some sort of xeno like planet, but there were different opinions. One offered by the director was that they saw a lot of fighting 2000 years ago (what the carbon reader picked up) and sent down someone to stop it, and that Mala'kak was crucified, you will notice the movie was set on Christmas.

there are multitude of reasons the one in the film would act how it did.


People don't think too smart when they are about to get crushed, instincts kick in and they run, even if they would have thought better if they were not panicking.


She herself asks the question "who made them?", and belief in scientific origin and spiritual are no exclusive. This actually can have significant relevance if the theory about the Mala'kak and Christianity may be connected, and great importance was made on focusing on the giant head alter which characters make the hypothesis is their god.


I don't see this, in fact Halloway is far from a robot and questions Shaw keeping her beliefs.

Good responses. I will attempt to refute them.

-What if the readings were off? What if the readings were clear when and where they took their readings, but elsewhere they were not clear. The script should have given them a plausible reason for taking off their helmets. It didn't, so they look like fools. .



- I actually think it would have been a better movie had this information been included, but they chickened out. Knowing fox well, I would be very surprised if Scott wasn't warned off it. Tentpole franchises are calculated not to alienate any large part of the audience (except for the purpose of propaganda). This leads to potentially controversial plot elements being altered or abandoned so the film can be sold to the widest possible audience.




-Maybe, but now there are two characters for the sequel, and one of them is annoying.



-They are in this case, because Shaw has learned specifically how human life was created by aliens. She believes this, yet she still believes the biblical account which is not consistent with the creators information.




-There is a scene, after David becomes a head, where he states that he doesn't understand Shaw's position in believing two contradictory creation accounts, and she says something like, "of course not, you're a robot."

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I think I'm the only one who liked X Men Origins: Wolverine.

<--- Liked X Men Origins: Wolverine.

I liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine as well. I also like Jack the Giant Slayer and 2000 Grinch movie.

I like various movies that are considered unpopular & the best example I can give is Howard The Duck which I think is awesome. I don't get why people don't/didn't like it except that they had a wrong idea of what the movie was going to be about before they watched it so they didn't give it a chance. They heard that George Lucas did it & they were expecting an epic scifi movie like Star Wars instead of a movie about a duck from another planet stranded on earth. I also really like the movie Death Bed The Bed That Eats. I get why lots don't like that movie but I like it because of how bad it is.

Same here, though the RedLetterMedia reviews changed my view of them a lot. I did see the original trilogy first and still hold in a higher regard, and hopefully the next trilogy will be better.

About the Tim Burtons/Johnny Depp films: I really do like them. They are simply colouful fairytales to enjoy, and you need to view them from an childish perspective. I think, then they are really wonderful.

About the Star Wars films: The original trilogy is better, but I can enjoy the new films as well. Only the first films is in average not to my liking. I do understand the purpose behind it, so I am not dooming George Lucas, but the humour of the films is a very infantil one. (Which I understand: George Lucas was interested in attracting more peer groups then : Geeky 30+ hardcore fans. ^^) So yes Jarjarbinks really annoys me, but happily he has far less impact on the other two films. I dont know if it was planned by George Lucas that way, or if the actor was simply bad, but the teenage Anakin is as well not that great on me. He seems like a whiny emo b***h for me. XD I´d really love it, if the character role of Anakin would have had gotten more attention. Still they are enjoyable films.

If the X-men:Wolverine movie you mention, is the one that is done in Japan. I think the film is not bad itself, but I missed a real threat/counterpart to Wolverine. The majority of the film, there were only some ordinary Yakuza guys, that Wolverine slaughtered easily without "breaking a nail ^^", so until the final end with the robot, there was simply some thrill missing. Its less about being a bad film, but I simply expected it to be more of an action film, and for feeling action/thrill, you need as well a serious threat.

About the new Star Wars films to come, I am a bit disappointed, that they will not do the classic Timothy Zahn novel trilogy. Still I think they will be enjoyable, so as far as I know, they have announced as Regisseur the guy that did as well the new Star Trek films. Which brings me to: I liked the new Star Trek films. I did not like that they created a parallel timeline with it, but for the films itselfs, I think they were quiet well.

I like the Star Wars prequels, DOA: Dead Or Alive, Spice World, TMNT III, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four and Elektra....