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Well I don't think any movies should be censored if they have already been released especially. What's the point?

But I do also think that when people point out things that are racist in movies, that they are perhaps looking too hard.

One of my favorite movies is Lifeboat (1944). This movie has been called racist becaues it has a black character, who addresses the white characters as 'sir'. But it's a military setting, so I always thought that since the black character was calling the other military men sir, because he was of a lower rank.

Unless I am wrong, and this is racist?

Another movie which has been called racist is Dr. No, because they say Bond is racist, because he tells a black spy contact of his to go fetch his shoes. But I never saw this as racist because Bond was barefoot, and they were in danger and they needed to get the heck out of there. So Bond was being curt, because they were in a hurry to escape danger.

If the guy was white Bond still would have told him to fetch his shoes. So why is being curt in a time of danger, and giving a curt command, considerd racist?

So are perhaps people just looking too hard, hoping to find somethin racist, when it's not in movies?

So, you think that nothing is racist in a movie?

I don't really know a lot of those movies you provided as examples, but I have generally always found Bond movies to be a little uncomfortable.

I agree on both accounts. As much as I like GWtW there's NO denying what a racist movie it is, just like the blatant sexism in the Bond movies.

It's not even just the sexism that bothers me, it's the fact that Bond as a government spy who has a 'license to kill' which essentially means he could kill anybody he feels like and not be held accountable. Why aren't more people disturbed by the fact that Mr. Bond is pretty much a psychopath?

Well it was pointed out in the movie GWTW that the black people seem too reliant on their slave masters, or are perhaps too enthusiastic be slaves. That can be interpreted as racist but is that the only thing that is bothering people? Because I feel there are much more offensive movies out that there than GWTW, and not sure why GWTW is taking the cake right now as far as controversy and censorship goes.

I think people just like stories about flawed characters. Characters who don't do anything wrong, are just good two-shoes just aren't interesting, are they? Would Breaking Bad be near as much of a hit if Walter White didn't do anything wrong?

Okay, name a popular well known one and lets discuss and contrast why there might be different reactions.

Granted I am not calling for censorship, nor am I quite of the opinion that choosing not to platform something necessarily counts as censorship.

Now that I think of it when was the last time they showed Pepe Le Pew from Looney tunes?

They don't even play Looney Tunes anymore as far as I'm aware. On the other hand... Kids cartoons started to really suck shortly after the 90's ended. The Golden Age of Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon are long gone.

Well it's hard to think of popular and well known movies that are offensive because normally the more popular the movie the less offensive it's going to be. But that's just it. Why go after a popular well known one, when there are other offensive movies out there that are worse, even if they are not well known?

Well what about a movie like I Spit on your Grave? It's somewhat well known and I found it be much more offensive and distasteful than GWTW in comparison. Or what about a movie like the original Godzilla (1954)? I found the radiation poisoning scenes, to be in very poor taste for a monster movie.

Our pepe pointed this out here on WP that the Looney tunes Pepe Le Pew basically sexually assaulted a female cat without provocation,

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments ... d_alleged/

Well in all fairness Johnny Bravo was also a perv...

Well you have Yosomite Sam and Elmer Fudd shooting the animals and actually hitting them. It's cartoon violence so they are not harmed of course, but is Pepe grabbing a female cat and holding her, and kissing her, really that bad, when you have people shooting at the other animals, blowing them up with dynamite, etc? Why is Pepe out of line compared to everyone else?

I think it's a cartoon not meant to be taken seriously, and people should just get over it, and not take it seriously? Family Guy has worse stuff happening in than Looney Tunes, for example. Can't we just take it as entertainment and not take everything as a philisophical testiment to real life?

Not to mention the Coyote and roadrunner. I used to wish just once the road runner would get smashed so the coyote would eat him (not realising they filmed the episodes long before my parents were born )

Well, how popular a movie is does impact how taking problematic elements as more positive into the social consciousness can have a negative impact, the sort of complaint people have made of GWTW for how slave characters seemingly happy with their situation and stuff can affect real world attitudes. Also helps that I can be familiar with the movie. It is not the same thing where a movie has something distasteful being treated sympathetically, and something being a bit distasteful because showed people dying because it has horror. The difference is like a horror movie having a serial killer, and a family movie where the hero is a serial killer and killing people is treated good.

Oh okay, I guess it's just hard to find popular examples, since the more popular a movie is, the more it tries not to offend people. But I guess I don't get why taking GWTW off HBO and Netflix was necessary for them. Were they worried about people canceling their subscriptions if they didn't? Why is it about the movie that is harmful?

Is that not true. Things can have a greater chance of being popular the more it is deemed inoffensive, so if something wants to be popular, than it may be a good idea to cut some offensive things.




Do you think this explained by what you were mentioning above? Whether losing subscriptions or possible future subscriptions, they are financially incentivized to not have a reputation platforming something deemed as problematic, or seen are being seen as less possibly offensive by performatively not platforming something that people are talking about as problematic.

But I would like to see more talks of other movies you think are more offensive and do not garner as much attention. To discuss it the movie would have to be something I am familiar with, so it must have some popularity more than some really old exploitation movie. Why would people even pay attention to a movie for being controversial if few are familiar with it? Maybe something still on Netflix or HBO. I am sure there are some movies, it just might not have caught the eye of larger discussion yet or relevant to current issues that people are talking about.

The Disney movie Song of the South has been in the Disney vaults for a very long time, I don't think it has ever even been given a home release.