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What is your Favorite Stargate Series.
StarGate SG1 74%  74%  [ 20 ]
StarGate Atlantis 11%  11%  [ 3 ]
StarGate Universe 15%  15%  [ 4 ]
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17 Oct 2009, 5:34 am

I think the first series of Stargate were great, but they didn't seem the same in the later seasons.

I've been having an argument about what they're enemy is supposed to be in this series.
SG1 it was the goul'd, Atlantis it was the wraith.. and SGU? Did they actually defeat the Ori?
I remember that they said the Ori came from the other side of the Universe, hense why the hyper-gate.. so is it possible that they're going to show up?

I'm uncertain about SGU. I feel that the stargate series seemed messed up when they kept talking about accession as to me it seems like a forced view about spiritual belief.
The series however doesn't completely bore me though like StarTrek: Next Generation (good actors in that, but I feel the plot is slow sometimes and there are things that bug me - namely the ships usually being on a 2d grid).



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17 Oct 2009, 8:58 am

So far SG Universe feel very slow and very dull. It doesn't have any grit to it yet, and I don't know that it will ever. Its slower than a typical SG1 or Atlantis episode so far anyway. Next episode or two might pick it up a little. Maybe hour long episodes are to much for this series. Whoever is directed it must be new.



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18 Oct 2009, 12:09 pm

DeadFire87 wrote:
So far SG Universe feel very slow and very dull. It doesn't have any grit to it yet, and I don't know that it will ever. Its slower than a typical SG1 or Atlantis episode so far anyway. Next episode or two might pick it up a little. Maybe hour long episodes are to much for this series. Whoever is directed it must be new.


My sentiments exactly. You hit the primary critique thus far, too: It's slow and very dull. The cast of directors and writers is virtually identical to SG1 and Stargate Atlantis, which makes it all the more confusing why they would take the series down this road.

The sad thing is, the series is so schizophrenic in its plot: How will the obvious comic-relief gamer nerd fit into the Battlestar Galactica drama that is forced on almost every single scene? It's just sad how they've body-slammed the franchise into the ground and are really just torturing it now as it writhes in agony.



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18 Oct 2009, 1:06 pm

All the shows of a season are recorded as far as a year before they are put on TV, and if a person doesn't like it, they can make suggestions to the creators for the next season, or they can turn off the screen...



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18 Oct 2009, 1:45 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
All the shows of a season are recorded as far as a year before they are put on TV, and if a person doesn't like it, they can make suggestions to the creators for the next season, or they can turn off the screen...


Not all shows, they are making SGU right now. which is sorta bad for the ratings.


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18 Oct 2009, 3:53 pm

My 2 cents on the gamer nerd....

A bone to attract viewers. Plausible, in its own way. Can't solve a top secret puzzle, put it into a game and see if someone solves it. If so, recruit that person, which they did.

Guy gets sucked into something and because of circumstances isn't just a civilian, but someone from everyday life being put into circumstances most everyone else was hand-picked for after years of training.

It'll be interesting to see how they handle character development.



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18 Oct 2009, 9:06 pm

Here's a Powerpoint slide from the original pitch...how it got to me, I'll never know...;)
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19 Oct 2009, 8:36 am

Good Lord, the crew are dumber than a box of hammers.

Ship's out of power. It has the sense to drop out of FTL on trajectory to areobrake around a gas giant (no small feat) and now it looks like it's on a collision course for the sun.

Next week....they are deciding who should get the working shuttle to evac as many people as possible before it goes into the sun.

Hello? A race built this ship that has kept running for longer than it could possibly have carried fuel for. Ever stop to think that it's capable of recharging once it gets close enough to a star?

And what's the deal with the communication stones? Hey, buddy, your body's on Earth. You have no business giving orders when you switch places with the guy who's on the ship when he switches places to report to the brass. IIRC, wasn't it this bozo whose order to try dialing Earth (when they knew there wasn't enough power) only accelerated the problem they now have to deal with?



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19 Oct 2009, 12:10 pm

Step right up, step right up everyone, and have a look at the so far mediocre reviews the series is receiving:
http://www.metacritic.com/tv/shows/star ... 20Universe



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19 Oct 2009, 4:58 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
Good Lord, the crew are dumber than a box of hammers.

Ship's out of power. It has the sense to drop out of FTL on trajectory to areobrake around a gas giant (no small feat) and now it looks like it's on a collision course for the sun.

Next week....they are deciding who should get the working shuttle to evac as many people as possible before it goes into the sun.

Hello? A race built this ship that has kept running for longer than it could possibly have carried fuel for. Ever stop to think that it's capable of recharging once it gets close enough to a star?

And what's the deal with the communication stones? Hey, buddy, your body's on Earth. You have no business giving orders when you switch places with the guy who's on the ship when he switches places to report to the brass. IIRC, wasn't it this bozo whose order to try dialing Earth (when they knew there wasn't enough power) only accelerated the problem they now have to deal with?


My guess is that since the ship has kept enough power to have gravity generators and shields working, that it has probably stored enough to phase jump through the star. Given that the ship has been plotting its own course, which I think includes the sling shot trajectory around the gas giant, the heading is probably intentional. When they phase jump through the star, it will probably recharge it or something like that which would happen only in science fiction. Also to be considered is that this ship is over a hundred thousand years old, so it has to have a way to recharge itself.



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31 Oct 2009, 1:00 pm

Loved SG-1, atlantis was meh to me. SGU however has brought me diving back into the series i used to love. As for all the early reviews of mediocrity so far, stop whining and s**t, i know the series is going to pick up soon (it is already starting to quicken a bit.) It is also IMO too early to f****** tell if the series is good or not, at least wait til the end of the damn season, give the series a chance blahblahblah.

As for the game that the nerd was playing that got him recruited, that is in fact the Alpha test of the stargate MMO (I know because im involved)

those saying the series is too battlestar galactica-ish, it doesnt really remind me of that as it more or less reminds me of LOST. Especially in how they are dealing with character development. Yeah the girl is a whiny b***h that does nothing, well maybe she eventually does something or gets killed off (both would probably satisfy some people, even though i do find her a bit attractive >_>.)

The point of this stargate series thus far seems the following.
1) previous stargate series' had characters who were TRAINED for the job. THis one its more of a RAGTAG group of people who must learn to work together and put up with thier differences in order to survive.
2) SG-1 and Atlantis were more about exploration/saving the universe/world/whatever, SGU however is more of a survival based show, though that most likely will as more of the plot is revealed (Im thinking the Destiny makes its last jump into a system for a while then the "bad-guys" appear)
3) It has already been confirmed that they are aiming for a more Alien feel for the Aliens, as in most wont be humanoid (gives me a thought that we may see the return of the replicators, just dont ask me why.)



Just give the series a chance and wait till the end of the first season before saying it totally sucks/fails. They are clearly trying to test a new concept for the series so give it a chance.

Also does anyone else tend to think Rush and Elijah (or whatever the name of the gamer MIT dropout is) tend to have some Aspie-ish qualities about them?


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31 Oct 2009, 7:31 pm

Nah, I gave up on it. All the characters are absolutely horrible, and it's crystal clear that this is the reason that their personal tragedies fill the majority of the approximately 40 minutes each episode lasts - This series just doesn't have much to offer. Battlestar Galactica was pretty interesting; It was sci-fi and it took a new direction. Battlegate Universica is trying to do an exact copy on an incompatible storyline. Copies turn out bad. You're just left thinking - Come on, an airlock! A plasma conduit! Alien attack, anything! Just shut her the hell up! Nah, I recently bought all the SG1 seasons, so they'll have to comfort me when I think about how sh***y this new series turned out to be, but for the life of me I can't figure out how they managed to screw a reboot of the Stargate franchise up this hard.

I wanted this to be good; gave it a chance, and just got tired of the "look at me! Look at me - I'm Battlestar Galactica but I can't do it right! Look at this guy right here, he sees his father in the desert, and this chick right here, she cries constantly about a character that you don't care about, and hence you don't care about her."



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01 Nov 2009, 12:56 am

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Also does anyone else tend to think Rush and Elijah (or whatever the name of the gamer MIT dropout is) tend to have some Aspie-ish qualities about them?


I think they have some Asperger's like qualities.

I think to think that Dr Rush is a lot like Dr William Weir though, and possibly that Col. Young is similar to Capt. Miller.



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10 Nov 2009, 6:00 pm

i love stargate universe!! !! !! ! it made me a huge fan of stargate. i love most sci fi stuff and Rush is awsome.



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12 Nov 2009, 5:00 pm

Are the characters still crying constantly and bursting personal tragedies left and right? Has anything remotely Stargate-ish happened in the last couple episodes? I stopped watching it a couple episodes back, so I'm wondering if anyone with the patience to watch it can enlighten me. I'm going through all the seasons of SG1 instead, but it would be nice if it did a 180 and it stopped sucking.



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12 Nov 2009, 6:48 pm

Not really...just the Senator's daughter. :lol:

Last week they tried dialing Earth while refueling inside a star. An idea Eli had. Didn't work, but that was because the energy drain threatened to compromise the shields and no shields inside a star = very bad.

Eli was told to learn and review Rush's data to see if the determination of it not being able to work was true or something Rush just made up to justify not trying it again.

You are right that there isn't much "Stargate" stuff going on. That better change soon. To be fair...

1. At this point of the story, it's about survival and adaptation. However, they are making a lot of BS drama. A chief element being how Telford (who is on Earth) starts throwing his weight around whenever he switches bodies with the CO on Destiny. That may have ended because they isolated Eli, the Senator's daughter and the CO from where the communication stones were at the SGC. So long as both devices on both ends remained on, they couldn't get back. This was done so Telford and the others who switched places could do the dial Earth experiment with only Rush to contend with. I think it's safe to say it won't be that way anymore because it's been the source of a lot of problems for the Destiny crew. Telford and Co ran for the stones to cut the connection when they thought Destiny might explode...showing how loyal they were to the Destiny crew when it matters most.

2. If they (the writers) let Rush decode something in Destiny's systems so they can have as much time as they need to use the stargate when they stop someplace (not the stupid 12-hour limit), they could make the stargate a more pivotal role in the story. Letting Rush gain full control would end the series too soon as all he'd have to do is instruct Destiny to return to Earth.