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31 Jul 2010, 10:23 pm

LISTEN KID! Batman is NOT about humor! Read the Comics! At times they are even grittier than the Nolan films! How about a kid being beaten to death with a crowbar and then blown up? How about a mans wife being lured into a warehouse full on infants and then have the building blown up? How about Batman's son being a sociopathic killer who has to be kept on a leash? Batman is not a funny series, sure it has it's subtle humor but it is NOT for kids, it is not funny! Please go watch brainless action movies like Transformers and get the hell out of a franchise you know NOTHING about!

Also you think Batman and Robin was good? People like you that enjoy those ****fests are the reason films like Twilight, and Pluto Nash get greenlit!

I have really tried to keep it in and stay out of this thread as much as possible but you sir HAVE NO ****ING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT and need to be learn about what you say BEFORE YOU SAY IT!

ALSO Have you ever even read Superman!? A large amount of it is about Clarks depression and feeling of isolation that he can't be normal like the people around him. As well as the fear of having to help people but stay good in the public eye and the view of the law!

I also apologize ahead of time for for any issues with mods and if you feel I deserve a temporary ban that is okay I guess... I just needed to express myself and show my frustration with the ignorant child.



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31 Jul 2010, 10:45 pm

And yet again, Xenu, you took it too far.


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31 Jul 2010, 10:52 pm

KaiG wrote:
And yet again, Xenu, you took it too far.


I know... But I didn't really insult him... I just typed angrily to him with words that I probably should have used on a family website.... I just need to get my point across to this person.



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01 Aug 2010, 5:15 am

I absolutely love the Nolan Batman flicks. They're both favorite films of mine.

A former classmate even told me when she saw The Dark Knight, the Joker made her think of me....I just found that so incredibly cool, cause I could totally see it :D

I enjoyed Batman '89, Batman Returns is one of my favorite movies, and I liked Batman Forever.

Batman & Robin is...just pain.



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01 Aug 2010, 7:39 am

Batman is not meant to be funny. Seriously, read the comics. They are meant to be dark and serious. Batman is a serious character and the Nolan films do that justice.



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01 Aug 2010, 8:06 am

Here ya go Jamesy old bean....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZJXUkSy45Y&feature=related[/youtube]

... even better than Schumacher!


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01 Aug 2010, 9:42 am

Xenu wrote:
LISTEN KID! Batman is NOT about humor! Read the Comics! At times they are even grittier than the Nolan films! How about a kid being beaten to death with a crowbar and then blown up? How about a mans wife being lured into a warehouse full on infants and then have the building blown up? How about Batman's son being a sociopathic killer who has to be kept on a leash? Batman is not a funny series, sure it has it's subtle humor but it is NOT for kids, it is not funny! Please go watch brainless action movies like Transformers and get the hell out of a franchise you know NOTHING about!

Also you think Batman and Robin was good? People like you that enjoy those ****fests are the reason films like Twilight, and Pluto Nash get greenlit!

I have really tried to keep it in and stay out of this thread as much as possible but you sir HAVE NO ****ING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT and need to be learn about what you say BEFORE YOU SAY IT!

ALSO Have you ever even read Superman!? A large amount of it is about Clarks depression and feeling of isolation that he can't be normal like the people around him. As well as the fear of having to help people but stay good in the public eye and the view of the law!

I also apologize ahead of time for for any issues with mods and if you feel I deserve a temporary ban that is okay I guess... I just needed to express myself and show my frustration with the ignorant child.


i wouldn't be that harsh but yeah, completely true.

xenu, you might want to specify who "kid" is. for a second there i thought you were talking to me. i hate batman and robin too.



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01 Aug 2010, 10:08 am

I am not a kid I am almost 21. Whats wrong with finding a film funny and amusing? I did not really like Batman and Robin that much but the humour was entertaiing in itself and made me laugh. Batman Forever was pure comdey combined with amazing special effects and a surreall gotham city, combined with the excellent performance of Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey. I like the batman movies with Michael Keaton as well because it combined entertainment and comedy with dark humour. Sorry but Nolans adaption are about as much fun as watching ballet. The design of gotham city in Nolans adaptions is boring as well. I grew up watching the old batman films as well.

I for one prefer the camp comedy aspect of batman becasue the serious tone puts you to sleep. Almost fell sleep the other night when watching the Dark Knight which is actually not as good as Batman Begins.


Read the reviews of batman begins from 2005 and many reviewers criticise the film for being mostly about soul searching.

Here is a list of my favourite batman films. 1 being my favourite.
1.Batman Forever
2.Batman (1989)
3.Batman Returns
4.Batman Begins
5.The Dark Knight

GUESS I AM AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE BECAUSE I THINK BATMAN IS MORE SUITED TO HUMOUR.

Batman is not meant to be completely serious. The first batman was perfect as well because it was serious in tone but it did not take itselft too seriosuly like Nolans adaptions of batman. Batman in my opinion is meant to be dark humoured not completely serious cause that is boring.



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01 Aug 2010, 1:50 pm

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I am not a kid I am almost 21. Whats wrong with finding a film funny and amusing? I did not really like Batman and Robin that much but the humour was entertaiing in itself and made me laugh. Batman Forever was pure comdey combined with amazing special effects and a surreall gotham city, combined with the excellent performance of Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey. I like the batman movies with Michael Keaton as well because it combined entertainment and comedy with dark humour. Sorry but Nolans adaption are about as much fun as watching ballet. The design of gotham city in Nolans adaptions is boring as well. I grew up watching the old batman films as well.

I for one prefer the camp comedy aspect of batman becasue the serious tone puts you to sleep. Almost fell sleep the other night when watching the Dark Knight which is actually not as good as Batman Begins.


Read the reviews of batman begins from 2005 and many reviewers criticise the film for being mostly about soul searching.

Here is a list of my favourite batman films. 1 being my favourite.
1.Batman Forever
2.Batman (1989)
3.Batman Returns
4.Batman Begins
5.The Dark Knight

GUESS I AM AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE BECAUSE I THINK BATMAN IS MORE SUITED TO HUMOUR.

Batman is not meant to be completely serious. The first batman was perfect as well because it was serious in tone but it did not take itselft too seriosuly like Nolans adaptions of batman. Batman in my opinion is meant to be dark humoured not completely serious cause that is boring.


I don't think such a serious Batman movie would've survived in 1989, chief.

In fact, Batman '89 was sorta like a dark Silver Age interpretation. I'm not saying I don't like it a lot, but I'm just saying that they did what they could with it at that time.



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01 Aug 2010, 2:31 pm

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I am not a kid I am almost 21. Whats wrong with finding a film funny and amusing? I did not really like Batman and Robin that much but the humour was entertaiing in itself and made me laugh. Batman Forever was pure comdey combined with amazing special effects and a surreall gotham city, combined with the excellent performance of Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey. I like the batman movies with Michael Keaton as well because it combined entertainment and comedy with dark humour. Sorry but Nolans adaption are about as much fun as watching ballet. The design of gotham city in Nolans adaptions is boring as well. I grew up watching the old batman films as well.

I for one prefer the camp comedy aspect of batman becasue the serious tone puts you to sleep. Almost fell sleep the other night when watching the Dark Knight which is actually not as good as Batman Begins.


Read the reviews of batman begins from 2005 and many reviewers criticise the film for being mostly about soul searching.

Here is a list of my favourite batman films. 1 being my favourite.
1.Batman Forever
2.Batman (1989)
3.Batman Returns
4.Batman Begins
5.The Dark Knight

GUESS I AM AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE BECAUSE I THINK BATMAN IS MORE SUITED TO HUMOUR.

Batman is not meant to be completely serious. The first batman was perfect as well because it was serious in tone but it did not take itselft too seriosuly like Nolans adaptions of batman. Batman in my opinion is meant to be dark humoured not completely serious cause that is boring.


You obviously ignored my posts about the comics because you can't be wrong even though you obviously are.



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01 Aug 2010, 3:05 pm

I absolutely love Nolan's "Memento" and "The Prestige", and I think that I am also going to like "Inception", ... but ... I only just barely enjoyed watching "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight", and out of the two I prefer "Batman Begins".

My favourite Batman film, and one of my favourite films of all time, is "Batman Returns"; I think it is brilliant, inspired filmmaking, a total classic, one of Burton's best.

I think that Nolan's Batmans are surprisingly dull, leaden, overworked, and charmless, although there are some excellent set-pieces/scenes which make me wish the rest of the two films had been like that.

I think that there are some very well done minor/secondary/supporting characters, ( especially in B Begins ) but that Batman himself, Two-Face, and the Joker, are very flat, like cardboard cutouts without the depth/substance necessary to carry the "meaningful" actions and philosophies which they spout from time to time, whereas the characters in "Batman Returns" were powerful archetypes strong enough to create/"fill"/fuel meaningful story-arcs without apparently even trying.
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01 Aug 2010, 3:12 pm

Batman Returns was the best film ever. The Cat was such a tragic and cool character. It was very disturbing for me as a kid tho.



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01 Aug 2010, 3:13 pm

Exactley his films are charmless. Completlely dull.

I remember the old cartoon series of batman in the 90's which pulled of the serious tone of batman better than Nolans films did. I liked the batman films of the 90's becasue of the comedy aspect and spectacular special effects. I liked the batman films of the late 80's/early 90's because of the gothic dark humour aspect. Nolans batman movies are more like 'thrillers' and leave nothing to the imagination becasue of lack of surreal setting.

The franchise better saught itself out for Batman 3.

I don't care if batman was meant to be a disturbed troubled character becaue obviously it does not transfer well to the big screen. No wonder directors of past batman movies avoided going down the road of 'serious' becaue quite frankly its just sleep inducing.

Maybe if they do try and tackle the serious tone they should get a new director for future batman films.

Oh yeah wasn't two face just awful in the dark knight. No charisma or excitement. The joker was not much better but he was ok.



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01 Aug 2010, 3:19 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Exactley his films are charmless. Completlely dull.

I remember the old cartoon series of batman in the 90's which pulled of the serious tone of batman better than Nolans films did. I liked the batman films of the 90's becasue of the comedy aspect and spectacular special effects. I liked the batman films of the late 80's/early 90's because of the gothic dark humour aspect. Nolans batman movies are more like 'thrillers' and leave nothing to the imagination becasue of lack of surreal setting.

The franchise better saught itself out for Batman 3.

I don't care if batman was meant to be a disturbed troubled character becaue obviously it does not transfer well to the big screen. No wonder directors of past batman movies avoided going down the road of 'serious' becaue quite frankly its just sleep inducing.

Maybe if they do try and tackle the serious tone they should get a new director for future batman films.


Maybe you would be better off watch Transformers and other films made for children that cannot follow a plot and just want to be entertained by special effects and zero plot.

Some of us like a good plot and don't want a CGI-Fest! People like you are the ones ruining the film industry and giving people like Michael Bay money.



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01 Aug 2010, 3:22 pm

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Maybe you would be better off watch Transformers and other films made for children that cannot follow a plot and just want to be entertained by special effects and zero plot. Some of us like a good plot and don't want a CGI-Fest!

But *I* like a complex challenging plot, and still don't like the Nolan Batmans, which is doubly mysterious to me as I love his "Memento" and "The Prestige".
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01 Aug 2010, 3:25 pm

Xenu I actually like serious films and thrillers like 'insomnia' amongst other Nolan films. Its just that it does not transfer well into batman movies. I am actually more of a fan of serious movies and thrillers as well belive it or not. Its just that batman does not pull it off well.

You may not want to here this but the Dark Knight and Batman Begins are just proof that batman is better suited to comedy and a camp type of tone than 'serious'. I am sorry but the serious tone is just boring. That is what many critics thougtht when reviewing batman begins.

The Dark Knight was given far too much praise because its not that entertaining.

At the end of the day either batman does not suit the serious tone or complex story or we need a new director to tackle the serious aspect of batman.