Do the lessons and themes in kid shows make an impact?

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Right... If you are a parent who acquiesces to your teenage child's demands, and don't make waves expecting them to clean up their rooms and help with the household, then you must be a good parent? (In case you miss it, I'm being facetious.)

I could be wrong, but are your parents "bad" because they wouldn't let you do something you wanted to do? Maybe you were a bad kid because you wouldn't get with the program. It's HARD to be a parent. Just the logistical stuff is overwhelming, like shelter, education, sport practices, food; but when you add selfish, spoiled, me-first attitudes, a parent doesn't stand a chance. Parents are human, too.

If you had everything provided and were demanding more, I would say you have good parents and you should apologize for stabbing them in the back.

Now, if they were criminal in their actions, that's something different. I've seen that happen but not as much as I've seen the backstabbing. I see all the young adults and their parents. I know what kind of parents they have. I hear the children badmouth the very people who lovingly created and cared for them for YEARS - I saw it happen. The ONLY people who would go to bat for them every time, often to the detriment of themselves and they kick them in the teeth. I see ungrateful, spoiled brats who probably won't be able to carry off adulthood. But, they're over 18 and legally adults. No one can tell them anything - until they get arrested or end up overdosing or pregnant.

There are a lot of outside interfering forces that parents today have to contend with. TV is one. Bad friends, bad teachers, cell phones, internet, perverts, pornography, sexual pressure, sick priests, etc... Who can they trust? I don't know about your parents, but I'm always there for my kids no matter what. I love them even if though their friends might have convinced them otherwise for a time. (I was called evil because I expected my daughter to clean her room that was falling out into my hall and living room.) Your parents are your strongest allies. If you can't see that, don't blame them.

I'm sure I've assumed a few things that might not be true in your situation. Please forgive me for that and try to understand my general point.

How is creative future thinking morbid?

you've assumed a lot. my parents are bad because they don't treat me like a human with independent ideas or beliefs not because they didn't let me go to macdonalds when i wanted to. they are conservative, racist, sexist, anti-queer, ablist, ageist, religious bigots and this would piss me off generally but its personal for me since im a part of most of the groups they happily vilify. my idea of a good parent is someone who guides their child and lets them grow into who they want to be not someone who enforces their rule because they are overprotective (im 20 and still cant go anywhere without asking permission, i cant have my own political opinions and it took 3 years for my parents to concede defeat and reluctantly let me pick my own career which i mightn't be able to do because their obstructionism has almost wrecked my chances of getting into the course that was my 3rd option for uni) or just plain old fascist. yes its hard being a parent but not all parents are gods or just good people because they spawned and raised you. i know you said to forgive your assumptions but your whole rant came off as very patronising. i am capable of judging character and have been since i was a child. minors are not morons and as an adult i have experience to back up instinct and you still don't know my parents. not every dissenting child who baulks at parental authority is a little hellion. also your whole rant assumes i'm some spoilt brat and in doing so denies the validity of my opinions, life experience and feelings all without knowledge of my life. well done.

It wasn't literal.

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LOL watch out for cellphones and pornography. If you're not careful they'll get your children. You've got a warped view of things, sir.

So... move out. If you're truly an adult, as you claim, you should definitely be making your own choices, especially since you're so adamantly opposed to anything everything about your parents. How is it that you're letting your parents run your life, still? I mean, at 20, you're practically an expert!

I wasn't ranting, I was trying to reason with you, but you don't want to reason, you just want your way. Good luck with that.

I don't get it. Were you just being mean?

The first bit or the second bit?

First bit was supposed to be something like a joke. Second bit represents a couple of the thoughts that occured to me when I read your post.

You still seem to be patronising VMSmith. I'm 20, still living with my parents. Since I'm a uni student it's difficult to move out at this time. They still try to control me by threatening to kick me out if I don't do what they say. If this is what VMSmith is going through he IS making his own decision. Putting up with their BS until he's financially secure to leave. Is it correct that you wrote that as if he doesn't have the experience to live without his parents? Basing this off of "I mean at 20 you're practically an expert". Is it the case that you think he should stick with his parents, despite the fact they belittle him constantly for who he is?

If not, what exactly are you getting at?

Interesting. My little sister says I'm condescending when I won't take her seriously - but if you could just hear the stuff she says... This is a problem for me and I'm not sure how to resolve it. Should I apologize for being more experienced and knowing more about life than a 20 yr. old? Should I just accept his, and your criticism of me without notice? I'm never sure how I'm supposed to be to make people happy. The rules for behavior seem to be much more restrictive on WrongPlanet.

I've been a parent for a long time. I don't enjoy being challenged about things I know for a fact by someone who hasn't even begun to live. I don't say that like it's a bad thing, but it is a real thing. VMSmith, no matter what his situation in life, has a life expectancy of at least 80, maybe 100 years. Truly, he has only just begun. Since he's not had children or even lived on his own, how am I supposed to take his wild assumptions seriously?

This whole occupier thing has brought up a lot of real issues that the occupiers refuse to deal with. As a long-time adult, I'm simply tired of it. The place has to be run. If you don't like the way things are getting done, YOU get involved with the current system in a respectable manner, but don't sh#t on the sidewalk and expect me to clean it up.

I work hard and pay my taxes. I've managed to live below the poverty level for the past 13 years - while finishing up the rearing of my 4 children alone while getting my degree. I do know what it's like to struggle. I know the heartbreak of not having enough food in the house for dinner. I would have gladly let my parents run my life if they'd helped my kids and me even a little. It would have beat the threat of having to live on the streets with my kids, hands down.

When you really know what you're talking about, then you can psychoanalyze me.

Ageism??? Is that even a real thing or just something a spoiled child made up?

Back to my original question... I was asking because you called someone's special interest, morbid fascination. My neice's son has autism. He took an interest in Star Wars and that's how they taught him how to read.

Why would you make fun of someone's special interest?

Back to my original question... I was asking because you called someone's special interest, morbid fascination. My neice's son has autism. He took an interest in Star Wars and that's how they taught him how to read.

Why would you make fun of someone's special interest?[/quote]

Oh, that. No it wasn't to make fun of someone. It wasn't supposed to be interpreted literally. Sorry.

You do come across as condescending. I don't think you should just accept our criticism, but try and understand it. It sort of seems like you aren't willing to listen to anything we have to say unless it matches your own opinion. And the reason for seems to be just because you're older than us. That's how it looks anyway.



Yes you're older and yes you do have more experience than us in many areas, and perhaps less experience than us in others. I would say try and ignore the age of the person and judge them by what they say. If you don't agree, persuade them with logic. Don't just say "I'm older than you, I'm right." Convince them that you're right. Calmly, if possible.



I don't know what this 'occupier' thing is. Or why it's relevant here.



I agree with this. You have to look after your family.




I don't really know what this is about. No one is performing any manner of psychoanalysis on you. I think.



It's a real thing, and it doesn't just pertain to the young. In fact your statement is probably an example of it anyway.

For example, elderly people are often treated differently because of their age. People often assume that because they look old they are frail and feeble-minded. Or more likely to be. Ageism is any assumption made about a person because of their perceived age, whether it's a good assumption or a bad assumption, or whether it is accurate or inaccurate. It's quite a significant issue in many professional elderly care facilities.

the only one who ever took in the PSAs that He-Man and Duke offered up back in the day I think were us.

Not only do I not think anyone else took them seriously, but I got made fun of for taking them seriously.....by older people....when I was already legally an adult.

The_Perfect_Storm: thanks. i think you said it better than i could've and perhaps more cilvily.